[Foss4g2010] Re: [Live-demo] FOSS4G Presentation

[Jody Garnett]

Don't worry about it Lorenzo - I know how hard it is to sort through
the many excellent submissions!  I am sure we can sort out something
else to do on the email list here.

All the best,
Jody

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Lorenzo Becchi <lbecchi at osgeo.org> wrote:
> Jody, I'm sorry your workshop hasn't been approved. The selection has been
> really hard with 61 workshops submissions.
>
> I think that your effort worth at least a presentation and I still don't
> know if we can offer you some more space inside FOSS4G. this is an
> un-official comment becuase it would be my personal interest to see the DVD
> better promoted but we have to deal with the general organization of the
> conference and the LOC should agree. There's a lots of things to do...
>
> please, keep promoting your effort
> thanks
> lorenzo
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> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Some feedback we got from foss4g2009 was that people would have liked to
>> see an introductory overview of upcoming presentations so that people could
>> then determine what they would go and see during the rest of the conference.
>>
>> With the LiveDVD, we have a comprehensive list of applications which could
>> be used to create such an introduction, although managing time will be a
>> challenge.
>>
>> We currently have 35 packages on the LiveDVD, probably 40 by foss4g 2010,
>> and a 25 minute speaking slots. So there is ~ 40 secs per application if we
>> are to cover the full stack. Ie, a lightening slide presentation overview.
>>
>> Jody has a few other ideas to cover below.
>>
>> foss4g2010 organsising committee,
>> You may wish to add some input into this discussion.
>>
>> Jody Garnett wrote:
>>>
>>> Afternoon team:
>>>
>>> As noted in an earlier conversation I submitted the "A Friendly
>>> Hands-on Survey of Popular Geospatial Services"
>>> (http://2009.foss4g.org/tutorials/#tutorial_01) for a workshop at
>>> FOSS4G 2010. This tutorial walked people through the use of the
>>> LiveDVD and provided some background in geospatial, open standards ans
>>> so forth in order to understand how the software works together.
>>>
>>> This workshop request was, sadly to say, rejected. The rejection
>>> letter did however ask that I discuss the topic on this email list.  I
>>> am still a bit sad on this one as the Live DVD is by its nature a
>>> hands on experience; and a workshop or tutorial is really one of the
>>> best ways to get your head around it ...
>>>
>>> I am still planning to go to FOSS4G; and I can pull together a
>>> presentation on the use of the LiveDVD.  However I feel more like I am
>>> QA on this Live DVD project, then a core member, and I don't want to
>>> step on anyone's toes if they are submitting a presentation
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> We may also (as an email list) be a bit organize and submit several
>>> takes on the LiveDVD topic order to have a better chance of getting
>>> in...
>>>
>>> Here are some examples presentations that could be run ....
>>>
>>> Live DVD Quickstart and Demo
>>> - Have two presenters (or an excited presenter and multiple desktops)
>>> - Run a basic set of slides (similar to those used in the tutorial
>>> above). Introduction to the Live DVD; What is Open Source, Open Source
>>> Spatial, Stack diagram grouping projects into "client" and "server"
>>> grouped according to function/ogc standard.
>>> - Switch between the slides and a demo of the software being named
>>> - Back up plan for demo consisting of a video of the software being
>>> used from the live dvd (ie capture using wink)
>>> - Considering the demos take a fair time (to load an app and go
>>> through the steps required to show a map) I imagine the presenter
>>> could talk as a second person went through the steps of the demo.
>>> - Ask that people try out the live DVD included with their conference
>>> materials prior to the presentation?
>>>
>>> Live DVD Part I Desktop Applications
>>> - Go over pen source risk/reward and how to evaluate an open source
>>> product
>>> - Focus on desktop applications
>>> - but go through one or two documented use cases that can be
>>> accomplished in each of the applications
>>> - Would be good to specifically target existing (say ESRI) users and
>>> offer a feature comparison or at least a translation from ESRI speak
>>> to OGC speak
>>>
>>> Live DVD Part II Server Applications
>>> - Go over pen source risk/reward and how to evaluate an open source
>>> product
>>> - Focus on server applications (PostGIS, MapServer, GeoServer, deegree )
>>> - would be great to look at the configuration of each application
>>> - more of a chance to compare capabilities; a slide for each application
>>> - could bring in a community leader for each application to run the
>>> demo? (would need a "timer" to provide each a set time of 5 mins)
>>> - once again provide context for someone familiar with ESRI products
>>>
>>> OSGeo Products and Using the LiveDVD
>>> - really go for the open source spatial software overview; emphasizing
>>> the different products and related history
>>> - favour the OSGeo accepted products; leave the incubation and non
>>> osgeo products for bullet points
>>> - have 1/3 of the presentation devoted to starting up the live dvd and
>>> showing where the documentation is and how to run one application
>>>
>>> FOSS4G Advocacy using the LiveDVD
>>> - Straight up Live DVD presentation 50% live DVD; 50% "local osgeo
>>> chapter" stratagies
>>> - how it is run; what the scripts do
>>> - how to grab a copy and produce a live dvd for your "local osgeo
>>> chapters" event
>>> - go over different approaches to FOSS4G advocay
>>> - ways to use the live dvd to help different parties:
>>> -- government representatives can try it out without installing the
>>> software on their provided laptop
>>> -- sitting developers down and going over the layered architecture and
>>> how the standards slot together
>>> -- use in conjunction with tutorials and workshops
>>> -- uses in education
>>>
>>> Other suggestions?
>>>
>>> Jody
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>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc
>>>
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