[Live-demo] Google Summer of Code ideas for the LiveDVD
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Mon Mar 22 19:27:24 EDT 2010
Alex,
Indeed it will good to get MapGuide onto the LiveDVD.
I've discussed this with Autodesk, and they have identified this as a
priority for Autodesk, and have committed to having Autodesk packaged
for the Foss4g 2010 release.
Alex Mandel wrote:
> Just wanted to note that I suggested building a deb package for mapguide
> on the SOC mailing list in response to some mapguide ideas. That's one
> OSGeo project we don't have at all on the Live disc because it's so hard
> to get working outside of windows right now.
>
> Alex
>
> Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
>> Hamish,
>> Good feedback, I've struck out the "Consistent Datasets" idea, and left
>> the "Automated Testing".
>>
>>
>> Hamish wrote:
>>
>>> Cameron wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I've set up a page for Google Summer of Code ideas here:
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_GSoC_2010
>>>>
>>>> What other ideas should we add?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Keep in mind that documentation writing, website overhauls, and other
>>> non-
>>> coding chore-work, while important, are specifically outside the scope of
>>> GSoC. One of the requirements to get paid is a code deliverable which
>>> the student need to upload to Google at the end of the summer, which
>>> contains their & only their work. Which in a practical sense & for better
>>> or worse mostly means it is useful for succinct lone-wolf style projects.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, projects which bring together multiple
>>> within-mentoring
>>> organization projects (& dev teams) as well as multiple mentoring-orgs is
>>> to be encouraged. (I suspect gaining buy-in and SCM check-in trust from a
>>> wide pool of projects will require a special & widely known and hands-
>>> on mentor, otherwise it makes me nervous about giving the student a
>>> project which is destined to stall.)
>>>
>>> So working to get test-suite* & buildbot scripts implemented in all OSGeo
>>> projects could be a suitable project, but a project to create a common
>>> dataset probably would not be funded.
>>>
>>> [*] (but isn't that supposed to be already-solved as an incubation
>>> milestone?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hamish, I wonder whether you would want to mentor a student
>>>> who migrates liveDVD packages to .deb files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The SoC admin team (which includes me) have decided this year to split
>>> our time amongst all the student projects instead of trying to that as
>>> well.
>>> And so I won't be a primary mentor on any project, and would only
>>> consider
>>> backup-mentoring if it dealt with code which I was the sole maintainer
>>> of,
>>> & so was absolutely necessary.
>>>
>>> Putting stuff in a .deb package is rather simple. Getting stuff packaged
>>> to pass Debian QA review is a whole other story and much more important.
>>> (the great advantage of .deb over .rpm has very little to do with the
>>> technical merits of the two package formats, & has everything to do with
>>> the standards & peer-review process, IM(biased)O)
>>>
>>> To do a good job the mentor for such a project should really be a full
>>> Debian Developer (DD) already, which I am not. You could ask for
>>> volunteers on the DebainGIS mailing list if you like, but in most cases
>>> I suspect it will mainly come down to debianizing Java packages, which
>>> really means working to get those Java programs to work with a version of
>>> Java which does not require a click-through agreement. Either by patching
>>> the program or by helping to improve the open JRE itself.
>>>
>>> So while on the surface this looks like a .deb project, I really think
>>> under the surface it's an inter-project Java one. Once the java problems
>>> are solved the .debs can flow relatively easily..
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hamish
>>>
>>>
>>>
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