[Live-demo] OSGEO Live GIS , ideas to share - Poseidon
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Thu Oct 21 15:24:18 EDT 2010
Christian,
Why don't you get through your mountain of work, then get back in touch
when you are ready to start trying out the build process for poseidon,
and I'll support you to get it working.
On 22/10/2010 12:03 AM, Christian Ferreira wrote:
> Cameron,
>
>
> Yes, we can CC to OSGEO-Live. I will subscribe the mailing list. But
> at the exact moment my time is pretty small for long discussions (if
> they happen).
> I'm back from 7 weeks on field work, and I must deal with a "mountain"
> of tasks and multibeam data, and most of them must be
> finished/processed before the end of THIS month. Oh my God! :-(
> Thanks for all the infos... I will start reading the howtos and
> looking inside the script.
> Cheers,
> Christian
>
> Christian Ferreira
> Oceanographer, MSc.
> Seafloor Imaging Group
> MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences
> Bremen - Germany
>
> Poseidon Linux team
> http://www.poseidonlinux.org
>
> On Oct 21, 2010, at 1:06 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
>> Christian,
>>
>> Do you mind if we CC the OSGeo-Live list with this conversation?
>> live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
>>
>> I'm delighted to hear that you are still driving Poseidon project along.
>> And very excited by the possibility of sharing our core development
>> work, and then creating customised release distributions which use
>> the same core.
>>
>> What this would mean practically:
>> 1. You would identify the packages that you would like installed in
>> Poseidon, then create your own install master install script (which
>> calls the individual package scripts).
>> See: https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/main.sh
>>
>> 2. Write Documentation - our project overviews and quickstarts are
>> currently being translated into German, Italian, Spanish, Greek and
>> Japanese.
>>
>> 3. For any applications which we don't have an install script for,
>> you (or someone else) would need to write an installer.
>> Example here:
>> https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_udig.sh
>> More detailed instructions here:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
>>
>> 4. We would then run the main.sh script on a clean Ubuntu
>> distribution, and create an ISO.
>> Detailed instructions here:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Creating_the_GIS_Virtual_Machine
>>
>> It may seem a lot to digest up front, but I'm very confident that
>> once you get the hang of the process, you will find it significantly
>> easier than doing it all by yourself, and you will be able to tap
>> into a very extensive community of developers who are working on this
>> with us:
>> Roughly:
>> * 3 core packagers
>> * another 5 or so non-core packages and testers who help out sometimes
>> * around 25 to 30 people who specifically work on packaging, testing
>> and debugging their specific project install scripts and documentation.
>> * around 10 translators
>>
>> Why don't you have a quick look at the links above, then decide
>> whether you would like to base poseidon upon these packaging processes.
>>
>> If so, then we can work together to try creating an alpha poseidon
>> release and test the release process for you. (I think after you have
>> done it once, with our help, you will be convinced that it will be
>> easier than doing it the old way). Working together I expect we
>> should be able to get something going in under a week's effort.
>>
>> On 20/10/10 18:37, Christian - Poseidon Linux wrote:
>>> Hello Cameron,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for keeping some faith on Poseidon.
>>>
>>> Yes, Poseidon is going further... I had 5 intensive months with
>>> cruises/travels but now I'm back to Germany. And this unfortunately
>>> delayed the next version. :-(
>>>
>>> Also, Hamish suggested me to include the sample data from MB System
>>> on Poseidon (instead of OSGeo-Live), and I agreed. Actually, I think
>>> that since Poseidon has now two variant: full version and the MB
>>> System one (plus QGIS,
>>> GRASS and GMT), maybe I could the last one into some kind
>>> "classroom" version, with lots of sample data and documentation, and
>>> maybe this help OSGeo as well.
>>>
>>> Yes please, provide me the scripts. Maybe we can share the load of
>>> software, since both distribution have a different and similar at
>>> the same time.
>>>
>>> Actually, I'm not against getting closer to OSGeo, is just that I'm
>>> the only developer on Poseidon, and like an old man (I'm only 35) I
>>> tend to stay with what I already know. :-)
>>>
>>> Also, I'm pooling with some people to have Poseidon available on
>>> every big research vessel because of MB System/bathymetry. And I
>>> planning some tutorials for MB System (which I already have done),
>>> but also some integrating it with GMT, GRASS and QGIS (to be done).
>>>
>>> Let's restart the conversation.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian
>>>
>>> Christian Ferreira
>>> Oceanographer, MSc.
>>> MARUM - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences
>>> Bremen, Germany
>>> Coordinator of Poseidon Linux <http://www.poseidonlinux.org/>
>>> christian at poseidonlinux.org <mailto:christian at poseidonlinux.org>
>>>
>>> On Oct 20, 2010, at 1:28 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>
>>>> PS,
>>>> You can see what is currently on the OSGeo-Live distribution here:
>>>> http://live.osgeo.org <http://live.osgeo.org/>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Cameron Shorter
>>>> <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com
>>>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Christian,
>>>> I keep seeing your name and the poseidon linux distribution
>>>> popping up in various places, and this has prompted me to touch
>>>> base again to see if we can help you build your next poseidon
>>>> linux distribution.
>>>>
>>>> (Are you considering putting out further poseidon linux
>>>> distributions?)
>>>>
>>>> Here at the OSGeo-Live project we are running into a problem
>>>> with space on the DVD. Soon we won't be able to fit all
>>>> applications onto the DVD.
>>>>
>>>> So what will be important is to be able to create specific
>>>> targeted distributions for specific domains, and I think that
>>>> Poseidon Linix would be a very good version.
>>>>
>>>> What we can do is provide the core distribution though our
>>>> build scripts, which you can use as a basis. You can then value
>>>> add by selecting the applications you wish to install, then
>>>> applying any customisations you may think is required.
>>>>
>>>> Is this of interest?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Christian Ferreira
>>>> <christian at poseidonlinux.org
>>>> <mailto:christian at poseidonlinux.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Poseidon is going to be updated to Ubuntu 9.10. The work is
>>>> on the way.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I have two versions nearly 100% ready based on
>>>> Ubuntu 9.04. But took me so much time, that now this Ubuntu
>>>> has just less than 1 year of security updates, so I decided
>>>> for giving up. So, these Poseidon will never be released.
>>>>
>>>> The problem, is that Poseidon since from the beginning,
>>>> Poseidon is a distro of a man alone. The team help with the
>>>> website and sometimes writing documentation... but, the
>>>> distro related work is done just by me.
>>>>
>>>> So, sometimes with the cruises, work and family is hard to
>>>> find tons of time to produce real polished and good
>>>> Poseidon release.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway... I new version is under construction... Actually,
>>>> I am preparing first a minimal version of Poseidon Linux
>>>> just with the GIS and MB System. This will be ready until
>>>> end of December (I will work during Xmas hollidays on it).
>>>>
>>>> Well, I'm always glad to have help or ideas...
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, Poseidon Linux doesn't has the
>>>> infrastructure necessary to be a internet shared project.
>>>> And I never could find the resources to do so.
>>>>
>>>> PS: Please, Hamish and others... in the future (if
>>>> possible), write me just to this email... the "chris for
>>>> lists" email gets dozens of emails (and I use filter that
>>>> sort them), so any personal mail is not filtered and may
>>>> get lost among them.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Christian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Hamish
>>>> <hamish_b at yahoo.com <mailto:hamish_b at yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hamish:
>>>> > >> you might mave a look at the Poseidon live dvd
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> Massimo:
>>>> > > I know it, it's a great project!
>>>> > > from poseido i see some sw title i don't know first.
>>>> > > But seems the last release is dated 2008.
>>>> > > Maybe for educational purpose is not needed
>>>> > > to have the last sw version installed?
>>>> > > btw, just to know if it was a topic of interests.
>>>>
>>>> Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> > http://www.en.poseidonlinux.org/
>>>> > This project looks very similar to what we are doing and
>>>> > there is great potential for us to collaborate. Does
>>>> anyone
>>>> > know the developers there yet and want to invite them to
>>>> > work together with us?
>>>>
>>>> any thoughts Christian?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Hamish
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Christian Ferreira
>>>> Oceanographer
>>>> Marum - Center for Marine Environmental Sciences
>>>> Bremen - Germany
>>>>
>>>> Poseidon Linux team
>>>> http://www.poseidonlinux.org <http://www.poseidonlinux.org/>
>>>>
>>>> Poseidon Linux team
>>>> http://www.poseidonlinux.org <http://www.poseidonlinux.org/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>
>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
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>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>
>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>>> Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions
>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>
>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>> http://www.lisasoft.com
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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
http://www.lisasoft.com
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