[Live-demo] ORFEO Toolbox in OSGeoLive?

Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandewauw at gmail.com
Fri Jan 14 13:14:28 EST 2011


Small fix (I'm moving and have no svn access currently
make it :
apt-get *--assume-yes *install libotb otbapp monteverdi

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>wrote:

> As I mentioned before I already committed an initial script to svn.
> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/gisvm/trunk/bin/install_otb.sh
>
> Manuel, if you sign up or have an osgeo account, let us know your
> username and we'll get you access to the svn.
>
> Things the script needs:
> Menu items (I suggest a menu item with a subfolder for all the GUI tools
> to be launched from the sub-menu)
> A 2nd script for grabbing your dataset (I suggest you collaborate with
> Massimo on a small high res imagery example)
> Refinement to drop extra packages we don't need.
> etc...
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> On 01/14/2011 01:04 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
> > Hi Cameron,
> >
> > I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.
> >
> > The install script for OTB  will be very simple I think :
> >
> > *sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
> > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable*
> > *sudo aptitude update  *
> > *sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi*
> > *
> > *
> > I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Manuel
> >
> > 2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
> >
> >>  Thank you Manual for these clarifications.
> >>
> >> I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for including OTB on
> >> OSGeo-Live.
> >> Assuming that there are no other questions or objections from our
> >> community, I'd encourage you to start packaging OTB as per:
> >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
> >>
> >> If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim to have install
> >> script and Overview and Quickstart text complete by 31 January.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>  I answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:
> >>
> >> 1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use rather
> >> than libraries that are included into other applications. Does ORFEO
> >> Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line interface) that a
> >> user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?
> >>
> >>  ->Yes the software Monteverdi based on OTB provide a user interface and
> >> an architecture which allows building processing chains by selecting
> modules
> >> from a set of menus. It supports raster and vector dataThe architecture
> >> takes advantage of the streaming and multi-threading capabilities of the
> OTB
> >> pipeline. It also uses cool features as processing on demand and
> automagic
> >> file format I/O. The application is called Monteverdi, since this is the
> >> name of the Orfeo composer<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi>
> >> .  The application is also packaged on Ubuntu, you can find more
> >> informations here : http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html
> >> Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain (command line
> >> interface) which are also accessible through user interface (standalone
> qt
> >> application or qgis plugins)
> >>
> >> 2. OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.
> >> Can ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?
> >>
> >>  ->Yes, we already provide in the past Live OTB which works on this type
> >> of platforms. The application monteverdi was developped in the frame of
> >> capacity building activities and it works on PC with memory and disk
> >> constrained (512 Mo of RAM is enough to run the application and do basic
> >> processing).
> >>
> >> How much disk space will be required to install ORFEO Toolbox and a
> >> suitable example application.
> >>
> >>  -> otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo
> >>
> >> What datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can you make use of
> >> the naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you need something
> >> else?
> >> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets
> >>
> >>  -> I do not know this dataset, I think that we can use this dataset. We
> >> provide also on our repository extract of remote sensing data which are
> used
> >> as examples in the software guide and in the OTB tutorial.
> >> http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/
> >> Our documentation (description of algorithms, input images, examples and
> >> results) are automatically generated each time when we update the
> software
> >> guide to ensure that results which appear in the documentation are
> results
> >> provided by the library.
> >> We can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want which will give
> an
> >> overview of OTB functionnalities on the Live DVD?
> >>
> >> 3. You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't see ORFEO
> >> listed at http://osgeo.org . Have you started incubation, or are you on
> >> the waiting list to start incubation?
> >>
> >>  -> Sorry, I only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start the
> >> incubation process for now...
> >>
> >> 4. Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you have a bug
> >> free, stable release, which has been rolled out to production in a
> >> number of locations?
> >>
> >>  -> The last OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the latest
> stable
> >> release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a platform of automatic
> tests
> >> (based on cmake, ctest and cdash). The library is continuously and
> >> intensively tests on numerous platforms. There are more than 1500 tests
> >> currently in the library...
> >> http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB
> >>
> >> 5. I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI list of
> >> licences. Has license been discussed and resolved on the
> >> OSGeo-Incubation list?
> >>
> >>  -> I am not aware of any discussions about the licence, Cecill is a
> free
> >> software license (adapted to french legal matter) compatible with GPL :
> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL
> >>
> >> 6. Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to volunteer to be
> >> the OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility for liaising
> >> between the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that scripts and
> >> documentation are updated for each release.
> >>
> >>  -> No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is also an OTB
> >> packages team on launchpad with contacts : https://launchpad.net/~otb<
> https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb>
> >>
> >>  Regards,
> >>
> >>  Manuel
> >>
> >> 2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> Hi Johan,
> >>>
> >>>  I think that's some words in your answers are missing... "it is
> already
> >>> packaged and...???"
> >>>
> >>>  2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <johan.vandewauw at gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>> Since
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel Grizonnet <
> >>>> manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  The toolbox (and also related projects) are also provided as binary
> >>>>> packages for Windows, Mac and recently also on Linux Platforms. An
> OTB
> >>>>> repository is available on launchpad.net for Ubuntu platforms
> >>>>> (9.10,10.4,10.10) and also for OpenSuse platforms.
> >>>>>
> >>>>  it is already packaged and
> >>>>
> >>>>>  OTB is under incubation for OSGeo Project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>  I think it would be a very good idea to include OTB on the live disk.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Manuel
> >>>
>
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