[Live-demo] ORFEO Toolbox in OSGeoLive?
Angelos Tzotsos
gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Thu Jan 20 14:33:15 EST 2011
Hi Manuel.
The files are committed in svn now.
Best regards,
Angelos
On 01/20/2011 06:00 PM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wrote the Overview and QuickStart texts for the OTB project in the
> frame of the next release of OSGeo live.
>
> I don't know if I've got access to the SVN repository to push the
> file (my OSGeo login is 'manuelgrizonnet').
>
> However, you can find the first version of the documentation with also
> related logo/images here :
> http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/packages/svn_osgeolive_backup.tgz
>
> Do not hesitate if I made mistakes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Manuel
>
>
> 2011/1/14 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com
> <mailto:cameron.shorter at lisasoft.com>>
>
> Thanks Manuel,
> I've change the name of the project in our spreadsheet to "otb".
>
> This name, "otb" will be the acronym that you should use for your
> install script and documentation, and our status spreadsheets. We
> use a bit of excel magic to work out status of docs and
> translations based upon this name.
>
>
>
> On 14/01/11 20:04, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>> Hi Cameron,
>>
>> I addes an entry in the #Status document about orfeo toolbox.
>>
>> The install script for OTB will be very simple I think :
>>
>> /sudo aptitude install add-apt-repository
>> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:otb/orfeotoolbox-stable/
>> /sudo aptitude update /
>> /sudo aptitude install otb otbapp monteverdi/
>> /
>> /
>> I'll send a script for orfeo based on the mapserver script soon.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Manuel
>>
>> 2011/1/12 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>> <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>
>> Thank you Manual for these clarifications.
>>
>> I'm heartened by all your answers, and I'm +1 for including
>> OTB on OSGeo-Live.
>> Assuming that there are no other questions or objections from
>> our community, I'd encourage you to start packaging OTB as per:
>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project
>>
>> If you wish to make the next release, can you please aim to
>> have install script and Overview and Quickstart text complete
>> by 31 January.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/01/2011 4:41 AM, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I answer below to questions about OTB before moving forward:
>>>
>>> 1. OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can
>>> use rather
>>> than libraries that are included into other applications.
>>> Does ORFEO
>>> Toolbox have a user interface (possibly command line
>>> interface) that a
>>> user can interact with and try out ORFEO Toolbox?
>>>
>>> ->Yes the software Monteverdi based on OTB provide a user
>>> interface and an architecture which allows building
>>> processing chains by selecting modules from a set of menus.
>>> It supports raster and vector dataThe architecture takes
>>> advantage of the streaming and multi-threading capabilities
>>> of the OTB pipeline. It also uses cool features as
>>> processing on demand and automagic file format I/O. The
>>> application is called Monteverdi, since this is the name of
>>> the Orfeo composer
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudio_Monteverdi>. The
>>> application is also packaged on Ubuntu, you can find more
>>> informations here :
>>> http://www.orfeo-toolbox.org/otb/monteverdi.html
>>> Moreover the otb-app package provides OTB processing chain
>>> (command line interface) which are also accessible through
>>> user interface (standalone qt application or qgis plugins)
>>>
>>> 2. OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained.
>>> Can ORFEO Toolbox run in 512 Meg or RAM?
>>>
>>> ->Yes, we already provide in the past Live OTB which works
>>> on this type of platforms. The application monteverdi was
>>> developped in the frame of capacity building activities and
>>> it works on PC with memory and disk constrained (512 Mo of
>>> RAM is enough to run the application and do basic processing).
>>>
>>> How much disk space will be required to install ORFEO
>>> Toolbox and a
>>> suitable example application.
>>>
>>> -> otb package 10 Mo, monteverdi package 10 Mo, otb-app 15 Mo
>>>
>>> What datasets would be required for a demonstration? Can you
>>> make use of
>>> the naturalearth dataset already installed, or would you
>>> need something
>>> else?
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets
>>>
>>> -> I do not know this dataset, I think that we can use this
>>> dataset. We provide also on our repository extract of remote
>>> sensing data which are used as examples in the software
>>> guide and in the OTB tutorial.
>>> http://hg.orfeo-toolbox.org/OTB-Data/
>>> Our documentation (description of algorithms, input images,
>>> examples and results) are automatically generated each time
>>> when we update the software guide to ensure that results
>>> which appear in the documentation are results provided by
>>> the library.
>>> We can pointed out interesting "Toy example" if you want
>>> which will give an overview of OTB functionnalities on the
>>> Live DVD?
>>>
>>> 3. You mention that ORFEO is in OSGeo incubation. I can't
>>> see ORFEO
>>> listed athttp://osgeo.org. Have you started incubation, or
>>> are you on
>>> the waiting list to start incubation?
>>>
>>> -> Sorry, I only open a ticket on the OSGeo website to start
>>> the incubation process for now...
>>>
>>> 4. Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. Do you
>>> have a bug
>>> free, stable release, which has been rolled out to
>>> production in a
>>> number of locations?
>>>
>>> -> The last OTB release 3.8.0 and monteverdi 1.6.0 are the
>>> latest stable release. OTB validation is mainly driven by a
>>> platform of automatic tests (based on cmake, ctest and
>>> cdash). The library is continuously and intensively tests on
>>> numerous platforms. There are more than 1500 tests currently
>>> in the library...
>>> http://dash.orfeo-toolbox.org/index.php?project=OTB
>>>
>>> 5. I notice the CeCILL licence you use is not listed on OSI
>>> list of
>>> licences. Has license been discussed and resolved on the
>>> OSGeo-Incubation list?
>>>
>>> -> I am not aware of any discussions about the licence,
>>> Cecill is a free software license (adapted to french legal
>>> matter) compatible with GPL :
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CeCILL
>>>
>>> 6. Do you have a person (maybe yourself?) prepared to
>>> volunteer to be
>>> the OSGeo-Live representative, who will take responsibility
>>> for liaising
>>> between the project and OSGeo-Live and make sure that
>>> scripts and
>>> documentation are updated for each release.
>>>
>>> -> No problem for liaising between OSGeo and OTB. There is
>>> also an OTB packages team on launchpad with contacts :
>>> https://launchpad.net/~otb <https://launchpad.net/%7Eotb>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Manuel
>>>
>>> 2011/1/11 Manuel Grizonnet <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> Hi Johan,
>>>
>>> I think that's some words in your answers are missing...
>>> "it is already packaged and...???"
>>>
>>> 2011/1/11 Johan Van de Wauw <johan.vandewauw at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:johan.vandewauw at gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> Since
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Manuel Grizonnet
>>> <manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:manuel.grizonnet at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The toolbox (and also related projects) are also
>>> provided as binary packages for Windows, Mac and
>>> recently also on Linux Platforms. An OTB
>>> repository is available on launchpad.net
>>> <http://launchpad.net> for Ubuntu platforms
>>> (9.10,10.4,10.10) and also for OpenSuse platforms.
>>>
>>> it is already packaged and
>>>
>>> OTB is under incubation for OSGeo Project.
>>>
>>> I think it would be a very good idea to include OTB
>>> on the live disk.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Manuel
>>>
>>>
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Angelos Tzotsos
Remote Sensing Laboratory
National Technical University of Athens
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