[Live-demo] Re: Application to include MapWindow 4.8.6 on the OSGeo Live DVD

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 16:27:08 EST 2012


Thank you Daniel,

As discussed with you earlier, I think that MapWindow plays an important 
role in the Geospatial Open Source stack, and while it doesn't run on 
linux as other OSGeo-Live applications, I think we should make an 
exception and include as a windows installer.

I caveat this comment based upon whether we can find enough room, which 
will probably come at the expense of windows installers for other 
applications. I'm hoping we should have a better understanding of the 
space availability after Alex creates a build which I think he will be 
doing soonish.

Does anyone else from the OSGeo-Live community have comments or 
suggestions related to this application?

Paul Meems, can you please confirm that you are ok to be OSGeo-Live's 
contact person for MapWindow?
Daniel, do you mind if we keep you name as a back up contact person as 
well? (It means you will be CCed on emails we send to project owners, 
which doesn't happen too often).

On 5/01/2012 4:03 AM, Daniel P. Ames wrote:
> Cameron, can you approve my membership on this mailing list so that 
> our application can go through? Thanks,
>
> - Dan
>
> --------------------------
> Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE
> Associate Professor, Geosciences
> Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
> dan.ames at isu.edu <mailto:dan.ames at isu.edu>
> geology.isu.edu <http://geology.isu.edu/>
> www.mapwindow.org <http://www.mapwindow.org/>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <live-demo-owner at lists.osgeo.org 
> <mailto:live-demo-owner at lists.osgeo.org>>
> Date: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:01 AM
> Subject: Application to include MapWindow 4.8.6 on the OSGeo Live DVD
> To: dan.ames at isu.edu <mailto:dan.ames at isu.edu>
>
>
> This is an application to include the MapWindow GIS 4.8.6 software on 
> the OSGeo Live DVD. The reasons for making this request now are 1) we 
> have reached a point where MapWindow is mature and stable enough to be 
> included, 2) we would like to offer a .NET native Windows application 
> on the DVD, 3) We are holding our 3rd international conference in June 
> in the Netherlands and would like to distribute this DVD to the 
> conference goers (which will include users and developers of a variety 
> of FOSS4G products - hence we'd like to give them the full OSGeo Live 
> DVD - not just a CD of MapWindow.)
>
> Here are specific answers to the application request form (answers in 
> bold).
>
>   * Please describe your application.
>       o What is its name? *MapWindow GIS 4.8.6*
>       o What is the home page URL?*www.mapwindow.org
>         <http://www.mapwindow.org>*
>       o Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is used? *Mozilla
>         Public License (MPL 1.1)*
>       o What does the application do and how does it add value to the
>         GeoSpatial stack of software? *This is a desktop GIS that can
>         be extended through plugins written in .NET*
>       o Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions
>         of the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add
>         comments about how standards are used.*The software uses
>         shapefiles and raster data. Plugins are under development to
>         access WFS and WMS data.*
>       o What language is it written in?*C++, C#, VB.NET <http://VB.NET>*
>       o Which version of the application should be included in the
>         next OSGeo-Live release?*4.8.6*
>
>   * Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user
>     finds a bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of
>     all other OSGeo-Live applications as well. (Way pay most attention
>     to the following answers):
>       o If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application
>         into production, it would imply that these organisations have
>         verified the stability of your software. Has the application
>         been rolled out to production into risk (ideally risk adverse)
>         organisations? Please mention some of these organisations? *US
>         EPA and USGS have made extensive use of MapWindow.*
>       o What is the size of the user community? You can often answer
>         this by mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy
>         email list? *Approximately 6,000 downloads per month and
>         14,000 people on the opt-in mailing list.*
>       o What is the size of your developer community?*about 10 active
>         developers on MapWindow 4.x with other developers focused on
>         plugins and other versions of the software (MapWindow 6 is an
>         active work in progress).*
>       o Do you have a bug free, stable release? 4.8.6 is significantly
>         bug free.*The only major errors reported are related to third
>         party plugins that need to be updated.*
>       o Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone
>         through. *This version (4.8.x) has undergone 6 test releases
>         over the past 18 months. Bugs were found in each test release
>         that were then fixed until we got to this stable version.*
>       o How long has the project has had mature code. *MapWindow 4.x
>         was first released in 2005. The code has continued to mature
>         and improve over the years with many new features that
>         sometimes introduce bugs - which is why the latest version had
>         6 candidate releases.*
>
>   * OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use rather
>     than libraries. Does the application have a user interface
>     (possibly a command line interface) that a user can interact with?
>     (We do make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will
>     include Project Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't
>     have a user interface.) *Yes, MapWindow 4.x is primarily an end
>     user interface, though it can be extended through custom plugins
>     using the MapWindow libraries.*
>
>   * We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or Projects which
>     are presented at FOSS4G <http://foss4g.org/> conferences. If your
>     project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has been selected to
>     be presented at FOSS4G, then please mention it. *MapWindow is not
>     an Incubated project as of yet, but has been presented at many
>     FOSS4G conferences through demo booths, talks, posters, etc.*
>
>   * With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
>     packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single project
>     email list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer
>     (or two) to take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live
>     and the project's communities. This volunteer will be responsible
>     for ensuring the install scripts and English documentation are
>     updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the
>     installed application and Quickstart documentation works as
>     expected on release candidate releases of OSGeo-Live. Who will act
>     as the project's liaison person.*We have asked Mr. Paul Meems to
>     take this role. *
>
>   * OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is:
>      1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
>      2. Install .deb files from a PPA
>      3. Write a custom install script
>
>     Can you please discuss how your application will be installed.
>     -*As we've discussed with Cameron, MapWindow 4.x is a Windows
>     native .NET application hence the application will need to appear
>     on the DVD as a single executable installer - something like
>     MapWindow4.8.x_Install.exe.*
>
>   * OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application run
>     in 512 Meg of RAM?*(N/A)*
>
>   * How much disk space will be required to install the application
>     and a suitable example application? *Installation requires about
>     65 MB of HD space.*
>
>   * We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use of
>     a common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the
>     example datasets already installed:
>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets If 
> another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it 
> appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be 
> included in the standard release. *Our small 45MB installer includes a 
> few sample data sets that are extracted to the HD on the Windows machine.*
>
>   * Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview available
>     under a CC By <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/> and a
>     Quickstart available under a CC By-SA
>     <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/> license. (You may
>     release under a second license as well). Will you produce this?
>     *Yes we will produce this. *
>
>   * In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for
>     some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in
>     future releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing
>     to include Windows and/or Mac installers? *Yes in this case we
>     ONLY would like to include a Windows installer. *
>
>
>
> Thanks to the DVD committee for considering inclusion of MapWindow in 
> the OSGeo Live DVD.
>
> - Dan
>
> --------------------------
> Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE
> Associate Professor, Geosciences
> Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
> dan.ames at isu.edu <mailto:dan.ames at isu.edu>
> geology.isu.edu <http://geology.isu.edu/>
> www.mapwindow.org <http://www.mapwindow.org/>
>


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