[Live-demo] [eoxserver-dev] EOxServer - an Open Source WMS/WCS for Earth Observations & OSGeo-Live

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 13:23:26 PDT 2012 

Stephan,
Could you please also add yourself to the OSGeo-Live contributors list 
in subversion: contributors.csv
We like to credit our contributors, and also claim credit for how many 
people are involved in OSGeo-Live.

On 27/06/2012 12:34 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> Hi Angelos,
>
> many thanks, works perfectly.
>
> cu
> Stephan
>
>
> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:14 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>> Hi Stephan,
>>
>> Your account has been activated. Feel free to upload your installation
>> script and let us know if you have access.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Angelos
>>
>> On 06/26/2012 04:15 PM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>> Alex, Cameron,
>>>
>>> sorry for the long silence, after holidays I still need to catch up with
>>> things.
>>>
>>> My OSGeo account username is: schpidi
>>>
>>> I confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be compatible with
>>> the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the time of contribution.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Stephan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 15:16 -0700, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>>> Stephan,
>>>>
>>>> Sign up for an osgeo account, tell us your username and then we'll give
>>>> you access to svn. You'll be able to manage your scripts and files
>>>> directly via svn.
>>>>
>>>> See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#OSGeo_User_Id
>>>> and the section below that on svn.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/03/2012 08:59 AM, stephan at meissl.name wrote:
>>>>>    Cameron,
>>>>>
>>>>> many thanks for your reply. I completely agree to your proposed approach for
>>>>> 6.0. What would be the best procedure to send the docs and install script?
>>>>>
>>>>> cu
>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On June 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Cameron Shorter<cameron.shorter at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>> I apologise for the slow response - this email thread has got lost in my
>>>>>> email inbox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EOxServer does look like it would be a valuable contribution to
>>>>>> OSGeoLive. From what I hear, it does seem to be of suitable quality
>>>>>> software. I'm a bit nervous about your relatively small user community,
>>>>>> as well as the existence of similar projects which will be competing to
>>>>>> attract your niche user base. I would like to encourage you to reach out
>>>>>> to other International Earth Observation software projects to see how
>>>>>> you can collaborate, and also reach out to other Earth Observation
>>>>>> communities and attract them as users. This will be important for the
>>>>>> long term viability of your project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards to including EOxServer on OSGeoLive:
>>>>>> I don't want to commit yet to including EOxServer in this 6.0 release.
>>>>>> Partly due to the light community size, but mostly due to the many other
>>>>>> challenges that we are going to be spending a lot of time on for this
>>>>>> osgeolive release, (switching to ubuntu 12.04 and openjdk).
>>>>>> However, you are welcome to write your docs and install script, and we
>>>>>> can include them in the release. The docs will be on the DVD, but not
>>>>>> linked from the index page, and install script won't be run during the
>>>>>> build process, but can be run afterwards (eg at the start of a workshop
>>>>>> which is using the DVD).
>>>>>> I'd then suggest that we will probably want to introduce EOxServer into
>>>>>> the OSGeoLive 6.5 release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/05/12 22:51, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>>>>> Brian, Angelos, all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> many thanks for your positive and encouraging comments. Was a pleasure
>>>>>>> to work with you on IRC :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like your idea of the beta software. The script you mention is
>>>>>>> available in our trunk [1] together with a screen shot [2] of what I
>>>>>>> achieved so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards from Vienna, Europe,
>>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/install_eoxserver.sh
>>>>>>> [2] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/screenshot.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:02 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was present in the discussion Brian mentions and I agree with him.
>>>>>>>> EOxServer seems to be a well organized project and I feel it should be
>>>>>>>> included in the disk, initially as beta software for version 6.0. This
>>>>>>>> would mean no default installation but installable by the user with
>>>>>>>> instructions through a quickstart document.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stephan already created an installer for the disk and I had a chance to
>>>>>>>> test it against alpha2.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05/26/2012 03:52 AM, Brian Hamlin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron, OSGeo Live list, all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      I had the good fortune of working with Stephen briefly today.. I got
>>>>>>>>> a quick look at the project source code, and I happen to work with
>>>>>>>>> technology similar to some parts of EOxServer, here in California.. so
>>>>>>>>> I have some way to understand what I see.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      The good news is that EOxServer is *small* and the server portion of
>>>>>>>>> it can certainly work within our Live parameters for web servers.. My
>>>>>>>>> first impression is that EOxServer is an agile and well organized
>>>>>>>>> suite of software that simplifies reading, processing and displaying
>>>>>>>>> some kinds of raster imagery, onto an OpenLayers web map. The scope is
>>>>>>>>> specific, the project appears to be well run.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      SISS - I had not seen that SISS page before.. perhaps some of those
>>>>>>>>> on the cc list are very involved. .
>>>>>>>>> I can take a guess .. SISS appears to be more of a certified stack of
>>>>>>>>> large software apps/platforms, along with their supported standards -
>>>>>>>>> different than a single small app written for a specific purpose..
>>>>>>>>> The naming of GML signals to me that SISS is aimed at large
>>>>>>>>> institutions and research bodies..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      best regards from Berkeley, California
>>>>>>>>>        -Brian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Some of the people involved in Australian/New Zealand Earth
>>>>>>>>>> Observations (Andrew, RobA, Bruce, Jim, RobertG, David),
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As per below, Stephan has proposed that EOxServer be included in the
>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live DVD distribution, which will provide valuable marketing
>>>>>>>>>> reach for EOxServer. I'm forwarding this on to each of you as I'm
>>>>>>>>>> interested to understand whether the Australian Bureau of Meteorology
>>>>>>>>>> (BOM) and CSIRO are aware of EOxServer. Have you considered using
>>>>>>>>>> EOxServer?
>>>>>>>>>> What have been your conclusions about such considerations?
>>>>>>>>>> How does EOxServer compare against the SISS stack?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>>>>> Note that BOM/CSIRO have been investing heavily in what they are
>>>>>>>>>> calling the "Spatial Information Services Stack" (SISS), which
>>>>>>>>>> consists of:
>>>>>>>>>> PostGIS
>>>>>>>>>> GeoServer
>>>>>>>>>> GeoNetwork
>>>>>>>>>> THREDDS
>>>>>>>>>> HollowWorld
>>>>>>>>>> FullMoon
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/SpatialInformationServicesStackHandbook
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested to know whether participants in the EOxServer have
>>>>>>>>>> been in touch with programs working on the SISS stack?
>>>>>>>>>> Are there any areas for collaboration?
>>>>>>>>>> What are the benefits of EOxServer over SISS?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 26/05/2012 1:21 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:27 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are starting to build the 6.0 OSGeo-Live DVD which will be released
>>>>>>>>>>>> in September 2012, ready for FOSS4G 2012 as well as many other spatial
>>>>>>>>>>>> conferences. This upcoming version will be built upon the stable
>>>>>>>>>>>> Xubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support (LTS) release. Documentation will be
>>>>>>>>>>>> translated into eight languages, now also including Chinese and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Catalan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any new applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add extra translations, or
>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> we'd like to propose the inclusion of the EOxServer [1] project in
>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live. Three weeks ago we released our version 0.2.0 and even
>>>>>>>>>>> though it has a rather low version number we think it would add some
>>>>>>>>>>> value to OSGeo-Live. However, as this is a proposal and we're surely
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> aware of all policies we fully understand different opinions. It would
>>>>>>>>>>> be great to hear your advice.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the details about EOxServer following the wiki at [2]:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Name: EOxServer
>>>>>>>>>>> URL: http://eoxserver.org
>>>>>>>>>>> License: MIT
>>>>>>>>>>> Description and value added:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> EOxServer's mission is to provide an Open Source software framework to
>>>>>>>>>>> ease the online provision of big Earth Observation data archives via
>>>>>>>>>>> Open Standard services for efficient exploitation by users.
>>>>>>>>>>>           * Open Source: MIT-style license
>>>>>>>>>>>           * software framework: Entirely based on Open Source (Python,
>>>>>>>>>>>             MapServer, Django, GDAL, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>           * ease online provision: Admin GUI and command line data
>>>>>>>>>>>             registration
>>>>>>>>>>>           * big Earth Observation data archives: Operators register
>>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>             raster data archives
>>>>>>>>>>>           * Open Standard services: Open in the sense of freely available;
>>>>>>>>>>>             Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC); WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS
>>>>>>>>>>>           * efficient exploitation by users: User defined sub-setting;
>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>             and download
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OGC standards: WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS, WCS-T; All versions are
>>>>>>>>>>> supported that are supported in MapServer. However, focus is on WCS 2.0
>>>>>>>>>>> and WMS 1.3 and their respective Earth Observation (EO) application
>>>>>>>>>>> profiles.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Language: Python and a small bit C
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Version: 0.2.0 (maybe 0.2.1 if we need to change something for example
>>>>>>>>>>> the packaging)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Risk adverse organisations: EOxServer has been partly funded by the
>>>>>>>>>>> European Space Agency (ESA) which is currently evaluating the
>>>>>>>>>>> operational use. Also some European Commission supported projects are
>>>>>>>>>>> evaluating the usage of EOxServer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> User community: There is a user mailing list [3] but not yet much
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic. According to the Python package index [4] there have been 96
>>>>>>>>>>> downloads in the last three weeks and according to the website
>>>>>>>>>>> statistics for eoxserver.org there have been around 3400 unique
>>>>>>>>>>> visitors
>>>>>>>>>>> with about 7800 visits in 2012.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Developer community: Again we have a mailing list [3] with a bit more
>>>>>>>>>>> traffic and nine committers. Please see ohloh [5] for more statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stable release: Our latest stable release is 0.2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Testing: We make extensive usage of Python's and Django's unit test
>>>>>>>>>>> framework and have about 900 tests included in our autotest instance.
>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally there are some selenium based tests of the web client and
>>>>>>>>>>> admin gui.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mature code: Again please see ohloh [5] for these statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> User interface: In EOxServer we distinct between two user roles:
>>>>>>>>>>> operators and users. Operators can register data and control the server
>>>>>>>>>>> via the command line and the Django provided admin gui. Users can
>>>>>>>>>>> explore the available data via a simple web client based on OpenLayers
>>>>>>>>>>> and jQuery.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Presentation at FOSS4G: There have been talks at the German speaking
>>>>>>>>>>> FOSSGIS and the recent FOSS4G-CEE conference. Please see the EOxServer
>>>>>>>>>>> documentation [6] for a list of presentations.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers for liaising: Stephan Meissl and Stephan Krause
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Application installation: Since EOxServer is a Python application the
>>>>>>>>>>> recommended way of installation is using pip. However, since we're
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> setuptools we can easily provide .deb packages if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 512 Meg of RAM: Yes, EOxServer can be run in 512MB of memory. However,
>>>>>>>>>>> the image rendering will be limited to the capabilities of MapServer
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> GDAL.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Disk space: The current base package extracts to 22MB but includes 15MB
>>>>>>>>>>> of documentation. Our autotest package which we'd propose for a
>>>>>>>>>>> demonstration (see below) extracts to 130MB but 90MB of this are
>>>>>>>>>>> expected results for the tests which can be safely ignored. If needed I
>>>>>>>>>>> believe we can shrink the test data to under 10MB to still provide a
>>>>>>>>>>> meaningful demonstration. Usually we also copy the OGC schemas to speed
>>>>>>>>>>> up XML validation but this might not be necessary here. The packages
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> available here [7].
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Other dataset: We have to explore the already included demonstration
>>>>>>>>>>> data but at a first glance we think we need to include some EO data in
>>>>>>>>>>> order to show off the capabilities of EOxServer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Project Overview and Quickstart: Will of course be produced and
>>>>>>>>>>> provided.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers: Not needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephan on behalf of the EOxServer Team
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://eoxserver.org/doc/en/users/mailing_lists.html
>>>>>>>>>>> [4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/EOxServer/
>>>>>>>>>>> [5] https://www.ohloh.net/p/eoxserver/
>>>>>>>>>>> [6] http://eoxserver.org/doc_trunk/en/users/presentations.html
>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://eoxserver.org/wiki/Download
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>> Brian Hamlin
>>>>>>>>> GeoCal-ish
>>>>>>>>> OSGeo California Chapter
>>>>>>>>> 415-717-4462 cell
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>
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