[Live-demo] OSGeoLive 6.5 Pre-release checkin

Tue Feb 19 02:25:59 PST 2013

Thanks Alex,

This is good news. In 9h we will meet to declare final, so this makes
things easier.

Cheers,
Angelos

On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>wrote:

> FYI, I just completed a test run of the full iso build based on r10k.
> It's a little large at ~5 GB. I'll look over the installer selection
> tomorrow and adjust. Script appears to be working fine and all download
> links succeeded.
>
> I also added a note on how to do the process
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Build#Build_Full_ISO_from_Mini_ISO
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
>
>
> On 02/16/2013 12:05 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> > Unless someone finds a show-stopper issue, I'm anticipating we will be
> > releasing osgeo-live 6.5rc2 as final in 24 or 48 hours.
> > I'd like to talk over final release details with the rest of our osgeo
> > live community at our usual meeting slot in 24 hours (or 48 hours if key
> > players are actually dipping into their non-virtual lives over the
> > weekend).
> >
> >
> http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2013&month=2&day=17&hour=19&min=30&sec=0&p1=179&p2=224&p3=22&p4=240&p5=215
> >
> >
> > On 17/02/13 06:44, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >> I agree with Angelos,
> >>
> >> Sounds like the ubuntu point release is unlikely to impact our
> >> applications, and has some improvements we would benefit from.
> >> Ie: Bugs fixed is expected to be greater than bugs introduced.
> >>
> >> On 17/02/13 03:51, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> >>> Hi Brian,
> >>>
> >>> Some answers inline:
> >>>
> >>> On 02/16/2013 06:14 PM, maplabs at light42.com wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:53:16 +0200, Angelos Tzotsos
> >>>> <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>> I have completed a new build based on 12.04.2 and it looks good so
> >>>>> far.
> >>>>>
> http://aiolos.survey.ntua.gr/gisvm/dev/osgeo-live-debug-build10000.iso
> >>>>> This could be RC2 if we decide to make this extra step towards
> >>>>> Secure Boot.
> >>>>> I would like to hear more opinions about our options here. Hamish
> >>>>> proposed another option on IRC yesterday:
> >>>>> 4. Release RC1 as Final and do a 6.5.1 with the 12.04.2 Xubuntu
> >>>>> base after a month or so, when more feedback will be available.
> >>>>
> >>>> from a testing point of view, you have to say, where are the risks?
> >>>>  e.g. What set of users and hardware are affected by the changes in
> >>>> 12.04.2 ?
> >>>
> >>> Until RC1 we used Xubuntu 12.04.1 base iso and during *all* our
> >>> builds we used "apt-get upgrade".
> >>> This means all updates until the day we built RC1 are included
> >>> (except kernel updates that were kept back to protect chroot
> >>> environment)
> >>> The new 12.04.2 base iso brings in updates that were released the
> >>> last couple of days (Qt4, openJDK updates and a new kernel)
> >>> The new kernel (3.2.0-37) brings support for Secure Boot and I
> >>> seriously doubt that it would affect any software of our stack.
> >>> OpenJDK update brings in the last *very critical* java patches that
> >>> so much noise was made around the internet the last weeks. My opinion
> >>> is that this is a serious security update and we should ship with it.
> >>> Regarding Qt4 updates, small part of our stack is built on Qt and we
> >>> can test those applications to check that they are not affected.
> >>>
> >>>> How could those be at risk given this change?
> >>>
> >>> Regarding hardware, I am not sure we ever tested on specific
> >>> hardware. I feel that we always trust Ubuntu on this area. Why should
> >>> this change now?
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> internally, it is unlikely that application layer software is
> >>>> affected much by
> >>>> a tiny point change like that, but what might the interactions be?
> >>>> Are there changes that effect any of the software stacks?
> >>>
> >>> I think this is covered above.
> >>>
> >>>> The rote way to test is to mechanically re-examine all bugs, and
> >>>> re-examine all features, and re-examine all quickstarts, when there
> >>>> is a platform change.. This is labor intensive and as noted, we dont
> >>>> have the labor available to do that..
> >>>
> >>> I understand that we lack on the testing side, and yes we need more
> >>> testers to make all the quality checks needed.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It is always smart to characterize the nature of the delta, and use
> >>>> insight to try to find where bugs and problems are likely to be...
> >>>> Since Ubuntu Linux and the software on the Live is very complex,
> >>>> I welcome the ideas of others to make good decisions about testing
> >>>> to acheive quality, and decisions about change to lessen risk to
> >>>> quality.
> >>>
> >>> I feel that since testing was only done so far by a small number of
> >>> users, it would not be hard to run one more round of testing before
> >>> release, but I really want to hear everybody's opinion on this.
> >>>
> >>>> best regards
> >>>>   -Brian
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Brian M Hamlin
> >>>> OSGeo California Chapter
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Angelos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Angelos Tzotsos
> >>> Remote Sensing Laboratory
> >>> National Technical University of Athens
> >>> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
> >>>
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