[Live-demo] [Workshops] OSGeoLive in FOSS4G 2014 workshops?

[Alex Mandel]

No it's unlikely that QGIS will be ready to work with GRASS 7 that
quickly. There are major changes to GRASS that require overhauls of QGIS
connectors, and how to implement GRASS 7 support is quite debated on the
qgis-dev list.

While stable, GRASS 7 is actually in beta status not release.

My recommendation is that we add a script for GRASS 7 but do not enable
it by default. For the workshop the best idea is to plan to use the
osgeo-live base install and simply add the GRASS 7 install to it for
that VM before cloning the VM to the machines.

Can GRASS 6 and 7 from debs install side-by-side cleanly?

Thanks,
Alex

On 06/07/2014 04:04 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification Micha,
> To date we only have one version of each application installed on
> OSGeo-Live, and I don't think we should break that policy. (We aim to
> ensure a clear and simple experience for new users).
> So I think we should only have one version of GRASS installed. Maybe
> QGIS could be fixed to work with GRASS 7.0 within the next month?
> 
> Or alternatively, a install_grass7.sh script could be included on the
> disk, and workshop instructions would start with "first run the
> install_grass7.sh script ..."
> 
> On 7/06/2014 8:46 pm, Micha Silver wrote:
>>
>> On 07-Jun-14 12:17 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> Hi Vaclav,
>>> Great to hear that you are considering OSGeo-Live.
>>> Our policy [1] with OSGeo-Live is to only ship stable versions,
>>> rather than the latest alpha release, and we'd be wanting at least a
>>> beta release by feature freeze, and prefer a stable release at that
>>> time.
>>>
>>> Will there be a stable 7.0 release of GRASS before FOSS4G?
>>>
>> GRASS 7.0 is certainly stable (even tho' the official stable release
>> is 6.4.3). And there are deb packages for Ubuntu available. THe
>> problem will be that QGIS still refers to GRASS 6.4 in its GRASS
>> plugin, so if we installed GRASS 7.0 there would be 2 versions on the
>> disk taking up a bit of extra disk space.
>> -- 
>> Micha
>>
>>> There are a few other options open to you. Eg: You could use an
>>> OSGeo-Live base, and download/update to the latest version of GRASS
>>> as the first step of your workshop.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Which_version_to_use.3F
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:wenzeslaus at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:30 AM, Cameron Shorter
>>>     <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Hello FOSS4G Workshop presenters and organisors,
>>>
>>>         Our OSGeoLive team have started our build process for
>>>         OSGeoLive 8.0, due to be released at FOSS4G 2014.
>>>         If workshop presenters are considering making use of
>>>         OSGeoLive, then please do let us know.
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>     we are definitively considering OSGeoLive but for our
>>>     spatio-temporal GRASS workshop [1], we need something like
>>>     "latest GRASS". It has to be GRASS GIS 7, probably 7.0.0-beta3
>>>     which is not out yet [2]. Would it be possible to include this
>>>     beta if it would be released before freeze?
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Vaclav
>>>
>>>     [1] https://2014.foss4g.org/schedule/workshops/#wshop-content-526
>>>     [2] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-dev/2014-May/069110.html
>>>
>>>         1. It is very motivating for our team to hear where osgeolive
>>>         is being used.
>>>
>>>         2. We are keen to understand if there are any requests you
>>>         have that we should consider for this release.
>>>
>>>         3. We have a feature freeze scheduled [1] for 30 days time,
>>>         on 6 July 2014. I'm hoping this will provide projects with
>>>         sufficient time to incorporate features they would like
>>>         demonstrated in workshops? If not, please talk with us.
>>>
>>>
>>>         [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Schedule
>>>
>>>
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