[Live-demo] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

[Johan Van de Wauw]

I believe it should be rather straighforward to convert our vmdk to a
vhd and add a vhd of OSGeo live to the VM-depot of MS Azure:
https://vmdepot.msopentech.com/List/Index

Then anyone interested can start up a VM using that base image. This
can be done using trial accounts.

Kind Regards,
Johan

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Suchith Anand
<Suchith.Anand at nottingham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to
> these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider
> community and users who want a cloud service can let their  views known and
> how they would use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live cloud service.
>
> That way, we will get better idea if  there is need/demand and a sustaining
> community who will step up to keep the project maintained with each
> OSGeo-Live release.
>
> All - please look though the ideas/inputs below that Cameron summarised for
> OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud service based discussions we had so far in
> education and live lists. If you are able to contribute to this , please let
> us all know. Thanks.
>
> Suchith
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: ica-osgeo-labs [ica-osgeo-labs-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of
> Angelos Tzotsos [gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 12:01 PM
> To: live-demo; ica-osgeo-labs at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that
> runs the OSGeo-Live VM
>
> I realize that my previous e-mail was not received by the list so I
> summarize:
>
> 1. OSGeo-Live is already cloud-ready on Synnefo stack
> http://www.synnefo.org/
> So basically we could deploy synnefo + geneti on OSGeo infrastructure and
> have a Free Software solution.
> Alternatively we could deploy an OpenStack instance.
> https://www.openstack.org/software/
> We should ask SAC if the above options are feasible.
>
> 2. In case we want to deploy OSGeo-Live on AWS, it seems straightforward:
> http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/VMImportPrerequisites.html
> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/vm-import/
>
> Any other options in mind?
>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
>
> On 10/18/2015 01:32 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>
> Bringing a few different email threads back to one, and answering Suchith's
> "next steps" question:
>
> On 16/10/2015 12:43 am, Suchith Anand wrote:
>
> Cameron - from your experiences with OSGeo live community, what do you think
> is the best way now forward ? Can you please summarise all discussions so
> far and reply to the public lists.Thanks.
>
> Suchith
>
> If we are to be successful at setting up an OSGeo-Live sustainable cloud
> service, I suggest we consider:
>
> 1. Would a cloud service be used? By who?
> I'd suggest that people who want a cloud service speak up, say how you would
> use an OSGeo-Live cloud service. We are looking here to determine if there
> is a sustaining community who will step up to keep the project maintained
> with each OSGeo-Live release.
>
> 2. What are the steps technically required to set up the cloud service?
> Hopefully someone will step up to do the research on what is required, and
> will set up a Proof-of-Concept.
>
> 3. What will hosting a cloud service cost? Would it be a pay-as-you-use
> model? Would we be asking the OSGeo Foundation to sponsor? Would we be
> asking workshop providers to pay for the service?
> I suspect that we could ask the OSGeo Foundation for base funding to prove a
> Proof of Concept (by paying for a cloud service for 1 year or so), but ask
> workshop providers and other users to pay for the service in moving forward.
> This is something that can be decided once costs are understood.
>
> 4. But the bottom line is that the best chance of success will occur if
> someone stands up and champions its development.  Do we have someone
> interested to do the hard work of making it happen? (Speak up if
> interested). It certainly would be a valuable contribution to the OSGeo
> community.
>
>
> Warm regards, Cameron
>
>
> On 14/10/2015 7:59 pm, Peter Baumann wrote:
>
>>  1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the
>> OSGeo-Live VM
>
> not necessarily a cloud, as the whole OSGeo Live is not prepared.
> But definitely hosting it on a VM (for easy cloning + move) is an asset -
> any
> demo just needs to show a URL then.
>
>
>>
>>  2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
>
> find a caretaker with a machine.
> Jacobs University can do that, for example, in tight collaboration with
> Angelos
> on technical level.
>
> -Peter
>
>
>
> On 15/10/2015 2:53 am, Giuseppe Amatulli wrote:
>
> Hi,
> under the http://www.spatial-ecology.net/ initiative we  use the the
> OSGeo-Llive for courses and intensive training in Geo Computation.
>
> In this line we have been used also Amazon Web Service to teach remote
> connection and scripting routines in the cloud. For this I was customize a
> Ubuntu Instance very similar to the  OSGeo-Llive.
>
> Nonetheless, would be grate  to have the OSGeo-Llive directly hosted in AWS
> to allow teach but also to provide to the course participants  something
> that they can use after the course.
>
> The AWS Educate <https://aws.amazon.com/education/awseducate/> provide
> grants for education so maybe an official cooperation OSGeo&AWS can be a
> solution to host for free a OSGeo-Llive Instance
>
> Best Regards
> Giuseppe
>
>
> On 10/13/2015 05:57 PM, Suchith Anand wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>
>>Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up
>> on ideas for future to expand education globally.
>>
>>
>>I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on
>> the importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help
>> running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea
>> in one of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy
>> below
>>
>>
>>"Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay
>> for a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring
>> companies could be approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service
>> solution.Such service could be made available to any event/institution
>> wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on earth with a good
>> internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users could be
>> charged to  cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to
>> maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of
>> replicating it in our globally through our local chapters."
>>
>>
>>Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to
>> start doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education
>> and training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key
>> people, so i request you all to give your thoughts/ideas.
>>
>>
>>1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the
>> OSGeo-Live VM.
>>
>>2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
>>
>>Looking forward to your inputs.
>>
>>Suchith
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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