[Live-demo] Translations and Proj4 documentation

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri Jun 16 13:22:24 PDT 2017


Hi Julien,

Vicky has mentioned that she is helping her brother who is in hospital, 
so she will be short on spare time for a bit.

I hope to have a chance to review your proj4 doc updates this weekend, 
from a readability point of view.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 16/6/17 7:15 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
> Hi Vicky,
>
> I am downloading the 10.5 iso in order to make the test.
>
> I had a look to pgRouting's quickstart, and made a very few change : 
> are you agree to be proj4's quickstart's reviewer ?
>
> Regards,
> Julien.
>
> 2017-06-14 20:29 GMT+02:00 Julien Moquet <moquet.julien at gmail.com 
> <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>>:
>
>     Hi Vicky,
>
>     I am not in the incubating list as a human being, but metacrs is :
>     http://www.osgeo.org/incubator
>
>
>     I'll have a look on pgRouting.
>
>     Regards,
>     Julien.
>
>
>     2017-06-14 3:02 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vicky at georepublic.de
>     <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>>:
>
>         Hello Julien,
>
>         Now about the documentation
>         I see you've worked on your fork, these are the differences:
>         is that correct?
>         https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master
>         <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/compare/master...julien2512:master>
>
>         I dont think you are incubating project (I dont see it in the
>         list of incubating projects), so this might not apply.
>
>         .. image:: ../../images/logos/OSGeo_incubation.png
>            :scale: 100 %
>            :alt: OSGeo Project
>            :align: right
>            :target:http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
>         <http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html>
>
>>         ​But I see you advanced a lot on the documentation 👍​
>         ​You might as well do the PR so that the other members of the
>         team can give you feed back.​
>         ​Vicky.​
>         ​​
>         PS, in pgRouting   the documentation is done in such a way, to
>         make minimal changes in further releases of OSGeo Live.
>         On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Julien Moquet
>         <moquet.julien at gmail.com <mailto:moquet.julien at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Hi Vicky,
>             My fork is up to date regarding the overview and
>             quickstart: https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc
>             <https://github.com/julien2512/OSGeoLive-doc>
>             Before making a pull request, I need to test it over the
>             OsGeoLive-10.5 (on wednesday or thursday).
>             Although, as I read the sources.list include in this
>             version, I don't really think the latest proj4 will be used.
>             The ubuntugis is used for that, and there is only the
>             stable 4.8.0-3 proj4 release to be used. See :
>             http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/
>             <http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu/pool/main/p/proj/>
>
>             and
>             https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list
>             <https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive/blob/osgeolive_10_5/sources.list.d/ubuntugis.list>
>
>             That's why I finally don't have to change the proj4
>             release on its overview.
>             I only bypass the metacrs and stuff.
>             Regards,
>             Julien.
>             2017-06-11 18:11 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara
>             <vicky at georepublic.de <mailto:vicky at georepublic.de>>:
>
>                 Hi Julien, et all
>                 Maybe you can help me.
>                 It so happened that I sent another mail asking about
>                 what version to use, while reviewing today, I saw that
>                 I didn't send the mail to proj4.
>                 (my mail merge skills are not so good)
>                 So, here is the hand made mail:
>                 Hi all, With the upcoming OSGeo-Live 11.0 reboot, we
>                 will be re-inserting each project into the OSGeo-Live
>                 baseline once someone from each project has replied to
>                 confirm that they have reviewed docs and verified the
>                 application works as expected. Can you please:  0.
>                 Reply by return email to confirm that you have
>                 recieved this email and that you are able to check
>                 docs within the next 2 weeks. (sooner would be better
>                 if you can)  1. Reply to confirm the Project Overview
>                 is still accurate, or has been updated, (and version
>                 numbers are correct)  2. Reply to confirm you have run
>                 a recent OSGeo-Live version (the previous 10.5 version
>                 is ok), and updated the quickstart where needed.  We
>                 understand that version 4.9.2 of proj4 will be
>                 installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0 (Version 4.9.2 was
>                 installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.)
>                 (all in one reply is ok)
>                 Full package status can be seen here:
>                 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
>                 <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
>                 Key Milestones ------------------- 18-Jun-2017    All
>                 docs reviewed and verified 21-Jun-2017    OSGeo-Live
>                 delivered to UAT (final application versions installed
>                 - Beta stage) 24-Jul-2017    OSGeo-Live Final ISO
>                 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston ... full schedule
>                 http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>                 <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB>
>
>                 On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:09 PM, Cameron Shorter
>                 <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>                 <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     Hi Julien,
>
>                     Thanks for offering to help with translations. I'm
>                     looping in Niko and Vicky who are currently
>                     wrestling with trying to get transifex to work. If
>                     you are familiar with it, you might be able to
>                     help them.
>
>                     Warm regards, Cameron
>
>                     On 2/6/17 3:22 am, Julien Moquet wrote:
>>                     Hi,
>>                     >> It would be ok to say "Proj4 has been
>>                     translated into other languages, including
>>                     proj4js, ..." > Agreed that metacrs is probably a
>>                     bit too ..
>>                     I am fully agree too.
>>                     And as OsGeoLive aims to be multilanguages, I can
>>                     help on the proj4 French Translation pages.
>>                     Regards,
>>                     2017-05-31 22:15 GMT+02:00 Even Rouault
>>                     <even.rouault at spatialys.com
>>                     <mailto:even.rouault at spatialys.com>>:
>>
>>                         On jeudi 1 juin 2017 05:57:38 CEST Cameron
>>                         Shorter wrote:
>>
>>                         > Hi Evan,
>>
>>                         >
>>
>>                         > Yes, MetaCRS was a project gathering all the
>>                         Proj4 projects together.
>>
>>                         > However, it appears that proj4 is the only
>>                         project in that grouping
>>
>>                         > which is active?
>>
>>                         >
>>
>>                         > Hence my thoughts are that "MetaCRS" should
>>                         be dropped from OSGeo-Live
>>
>>                         > as a concept and "Proj4" be used instead. It
>>                         would be ok to say "Proj4
>>
>>                         > has been translated into other languages,
>>                         including proj4js, ..."
>>
>>                         >
>>
>>                         > Your thoughts are welcome.
>>
>>                         Regarding what is listed currently in metacrs :
>>
>>                         - proj4js: no opinion
>>
>>                         - cs-map: no-opinion
>>
>>                         - geotiff/libgeotiff: heavily used underneath
>>                         by GDAL in particular, mostly in maintaince
>>                         mode, but can be treated as a technical
>>                         dependency that doesn't require to be visible
>>                         from users.
>>
>>                         - proj4j: no opinion
>>
>>                         - spatialreference.org
>>                         <http://spatialreference.org>: not maintained
>>                         in years. http://epsg.io/ would be a possible
>>                         replacement
>>
>>                         Agreed that metacrs is probably a bit too ...
>>                         meta for folks exploring OSGeo-Live content,
>>                         so it could make sense exposing proj.4 as a
>>                         standalone project.
>>
>>                         -- 
>>
>>                         Spatialys - Geospatial professional services
>>
>>                         http://www.spatialys.com
>>
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>
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>
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