[Live-demo] Retiring mapnik from OSGeo-Live?

Cameron Shorter cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Fri May 12 01:50:34 PDT 2017


I'm taking the following conversation public - with Dane's permission.

As per below, Dane is suggesting there are not volunteers available to 
manage Mapnik's presence on OSGeo-Live, and as such is suggesting it is 
a candidate for retiring.

 From the Project Overview [1]

"Mapnik is a toolkit for rendering beautiful maps, with clean, soft 
feature edges provided by quality anti-aliasing graphics, intelligent 
label placement, and scalable, SVG symbolisation. Most famously, mapnik 
is used to render the OpenStreetMap main map layers."

Metrics for the project look reasonably healthy. [2]

The Quickstart could do with some cleaning up.

Am I right in understanding that Mapnik would be considered a "library" 
and as we are refocusing on user applications, Mapnik might be a 
candidate for retiring on that basis as well?

Comments welcomed.

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/mapnik_overview.html

[2] https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html

On 12/5/17 10:49 am, Dane Springmeyer wrote:
> On 11/5/17 9:47 am, Dane Springmeyer wrote:
>> Cameron,
>>
>> Yes, there are a few of us working on Mapnik still (me included). But 
>> we don't have time to work on packaging or distributions.
>>
>> Because I am the individual that added Mapnik to osgeo-live 
>> originally I would prefer you remove it.
>>
>> Dane
>>
>>> On May 10, 2017, at 3:19 PM, Cameron Shorter 
>>> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dane,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help with mapnik to date.
>>>
>>> What is your assessment of the current community behind mapnik? Are 
>>> there people working on it? If so, who would you recommend we reach 
>>> out to?
>>>
>>> Thanks Cameron
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/5/17 7:34 am, Astrid Emde wrote:
>>>> Hi Dane,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for your answer.
>>>>
>>>> We try to find another person to look after Mapnik. Thanks a lot 
>>>> for your help with OSGeo-Live.
>>>>
>>>> Astrid
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Dane Springmeyer 
>>>> <blake at hailmail.net <mailto:blake at hailmail.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Hi Astrid,
>>>>
>>>>     I am no longer active with the osgeo-love project. Can you
>>>>     please offer up Mapnik maintenance to a different person
>>>>     involved with osgeo-live? If you cannot find a maintainer then
>>>>     you have my permission to remove mapnik from the distribution.
>>>>
>>>>     Dane
>>>>
>>>>     > On May 10, 2017, at 1:21 PM, astroidex at gmail.com
>>>>     <mailto:astroidex at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Hi Dane,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > we have started our build cycle for OSGeo-Live 11.0, due to
>>>>     be released at the end of July 2017, in time for FOSS4G 2017 in
>>>>     August.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > We are interested to know which version of mapnik should be
>>>>     installed on OSGeo-Live 11.0?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Version 3.0.11 was installed on OSGeo-Live 10.5.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Note that our installer feature freeze is 5. June 2017!
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Please give us feedback and get involved or provide a
>>>>     different person as contact person, which will update your project.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > We are asking all OSGeo-Live projects to let us know:
>>>>     > 1. What versions of projects should be on OSGeo-Live?
>>>>     > 2. Are there any new projects which should be on OSGeo-Live?
>>>>     > 3. Are there any projects which should be dropped from
>>>>     OSGeo-Live?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Do you think we should drop mapnik from OSGeo-Live?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > As per last announcement [1], with our next OSGeo-Live
>>>>     release we intend to focus on quality, and as such will be
>>>>     asking each project:
>>>>     > 1. To help install the latest stable version of the software.
>>>>     > 2. To verify Project Overview and Quickstarts are both up to
>>>>     date and in line with our documentation standards.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > You can see results of our first pass review in our status
>>>>     spreadsheet [2], column T "11.0 comment", and column U "10.0
>>>>     Doc Review".
>>>>     >
>>>>     > [1]
>>>>     https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75
>>>>     <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_75>
>>>>     >
>>>>     > [2]
>>>>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150
>>>>     <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150>
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Key Milestones
>>>>     > -------------------
>>>>     > 15-May-2017 Decide versions of applications to be installed
>>>>     on OSGeo-Live
>>>>     > 22-May-2017 Draft installers for new applications complete
>>>>     >  5-Jun-2017   OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application
>>>>     versions installed)
>>>>     > 19-Jun-2017  OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application
>>>>     versions installed - Beta stage)
>>>>     > 24-Jul-2017   OSGeo-Live Final ISO
>>>>     > 14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
>>>>     >
>>>>     > ... full schedule
>>>>     http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB
>>>>     <http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB>
>>>>     >
>>>>     > We are waiting for your response concerning your project
>>>>     mapnik. Any questions, please ask via the OSGeo-Live mailing
>>>>     list (live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
>>>>     <mailto:live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>) or directly.
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Warm regards,
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Astrid
>>>>     > --
>>>>     > Astrid Emde
>>>>     > Charter Member
>>>>     > Open Source Geospatial Foundation
>>>>     > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde
>>>>     <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde>
>>>>     >
>>>>

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Cameron Shorter
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