[mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

Wed Nov 1 15:53:24 EST 2006

The start/stop/install/uninstall command line options are only available
on Windows and the help only shows them on Windows. The help for Linux
adds the "daemon" option which is not shown on Windows.

Bruce

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From: Jason Birch [mailto:Jason.Birch at nanaimo.ca] 
Sent: November 1, 2006 1:49 PM
To: dev at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

Me too

Is there a behaviour associated with install/uninstall on unix?  Maybe
adding the appropriate rc start and stop files (showing my lack of
recent unix experience)?  Or is this Windows-only?

Jason

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From: Bruce Dechant [mailto:bruce.dechant at autodesk.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 12:45
To: dev at mapguide.osgeo.org; psc at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

Traian - I like this idea! Nice and clean and no special characters. 

Bruce

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From: Traian Stanev 
Sent: October 31, 2006 8:51 PM
To: dev at mapguide.osgeo.org; psc at mapguide.osgeo.org;
dev at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

Or, you can drop the - and / altogether and have something like:

mgserver start

mgserver stop

mgserver run

etc.

This would be similar to the apache command line, the subversion command
line client, the ifconfig tool on Linux, the net command on Windows,
etc., etc.

Traian

	-----Original Message----- 
	From: Tom Fukushima 
	Sent: Tue 10/31/2006 10:22 PM 
	To: psc at mapguide.osgeo.org; dev at mapguide.osgeo.org 
	Cc: 
	Subject: [mapguide-dev] RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

	Yes, I would like to see both formats ("/" and "-") supported as
well.

	But when the user gets the command line help by typing "mgserver
-?" or
	"mgserver --help" (note the double dash), I propose that we only
show
	the "-" versions of the options.  Of course, this is a bit
confusing to
	those users who want to figure out what /interactive means;
Bruce, why
	are we changing "interactive" to "run"?  Or will "mgserver
-interactive"
	also work?

	So typing "mgserver --help" outputs:

	The following is a list of supported command line options:

	  -? or --help
	      Displays this information.

	  -install <Name>
	      Installs the server as a service. Automatically starts the
	service.

	      Default service display name installed:
	      "MapGuide Server"

	      You can use a different display name for the service if
you
	specify an
	      optional "Name".

	  -run
	      Runs the server interactively as an application instead of
a
	service.

	  -start
	      Starts the server service. Note: The service must be
installed.

	  -stop
	      Stops the server service. Note: The service must be
installed.

	  -testfdo <Filename>
	      Runs the FDO unit tests.

	      Default output of the FDO unit tests will be the console
unless
	you
	      specify an optional "Filename". The output to the
"Filename" will
	be
	      in XML.

	  -test <Test> /o <Filename>
	      Runs the server unit tests.

	      By default all of the unit tests will be run unless you
specify an
	      optional "Test" to run. If you specify "List" as the test
to run
	you
	      will get a list of the available unit tests.

	      Default output of the unit tests will be the console
unless you
	specify
	      an optional "Filename". The output to the "Filename" will
be in
	XML.

	  -uninstall
	      Uninstalls an installed server service. Automatically
stops the
	service
	      before uninstalling.

	Note: Only 1 command line option can be used at a time.

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Bruce Dechant
	Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:49 PM
	To: psc at mapguide.osgeo.org
	Subject: RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

	I will be easy enough to support both. I'll update the RFC to
reflect
	this.

	Bruce

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Andy Morsell [mailto:amorsell at spatialgis.com]
	Sent: October 31, 2006 12:42 PM
	To: psc at mapguide.osgeo.org
	Subject: RE: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

	I agree, it's probably not a big issue.  It depends on how much
work it
	would be on Bruce's end to support backwards compatibility.  If
it would
	be relatively easy, then may as well do it.  If it would require
a large
	effort, then the current console response to an incorrect
parameter
	should be sufficient for users to figure it out on their own.

	Andy

	-----Original Message-----
	From: Paul Spencer [mailto:pspencer at dmsolutions.ca]
	Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 11:29 AM
	To: psc at mapguide.osgeo.org
	Subject: Re: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!

	I am normally a big fan of backwards compatibility too, but I
really
	don't see this as a big issue.  Perhaps if the tool just spits
out an
	appropriate message if called with incorrect parameters?

	Then again, windows users are most likely used to the / style of
adding
	parameters so perhaps that makes it worthwhile supporting both?

	Paul

	On 31-Oct-06, at 2:08 PM, Andy Morsell wrote:

	> I agree with Frank in that keeping it backwards compatible
with the
	> older command line parameters while in the future only
documenting the

	> new ones would be the best.  There are many references, mostly
in
	> archived messages in the mapguide-users mailing list, to the
current
	> parameter syntax that new users are bound to run across (and
try to
	> use) when doing research.
	>
	> Regarding the RFC format, that seems to work very well.
	>
	> Andy
	>
	> From: Bruce Dechant [mailto:bruce.dechant at autodesk.com]
	> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 10:20 AM
	> To: psc at mapguide.osgeo.org
	> Subject: [mapguide-psc] MapGuide's 1st RFC!
	>
	> Hi All,
	>
	>
	>
	> I wrote up a simple MapGuide RFC to give our process a trial
run.
	>
	>
	>
	> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/MG_RFC_1_-
	> _Commandline_parameter_changes
	>
	>
	>
	> Please have a look and post any feedback.
	>
	>
	>
	> Thanks,
	>
	> Bruce
	>
	>
	>
	>

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