[mapguide-internals] MapGuide RFC 18 - Localization

Wed Mar 7 14:54:06 EST 2007

I agree with Trian for FDO providers on RDBMS, setting local in c
library doesn't mean much.

Haris

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[mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Traian
Stanev
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Doesn't that depend on who executes the code? If the provider is an
RDBMS running in another process, that could be using a different locale
setting from MapGuide itself.  Another thing -- if FDO uses Unicode
everywhere like its API implies (MapGuide also), is there some sort of a
Unicode locale that covers all kinds of string lower/upper/sorting?

Traian

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Any provider that does sorting on attribute data or uses SQL UPPER/LOWER
functions. Without this change the above does not work as expected.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Which providers in particular require this and in what way?

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It directly affects them and is part of the reason this RFC is being
done. :)

Bruce

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How will that setting affect FDO providers loaded by the MapGuide
process?

Traian

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Steve,

Date/time/currency formatting will use the locale specified. Numbers
will continue to use the "C" locale internally as they have been.

Thanks,
Bruce

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Hi Bruce,

I assume this RFC includes some mechanism to switch from user locale to
C locale and vice versa, so that date/time/number/currency formatting
(e.g. MgUtil::StringToDouble, etc.) continues to work.

Thanks,
Steve.

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Thanks Trevor.

I'll update the RFC to reflect that the locale is platform specific and
does differ between Windows and Linux.

Bruce

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[mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Trevor
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Hi Bruce,

We also have to be careful with locale on Linux.  We may need to modify
the MG_WCHAR_TO_CHAR macro to switch from wchar_t* to localized text.
On Linux, we currently assume the codepage is unicode compliant and
convert to UTF-8 text.  So we may need to use iconv to do the codepage
conversion on Linux.  Also the locale string convention is a little
different on Linux.

http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl3_setlocale.htm

Here's a few examples of Linux locale strings:

en_US
en_US.iso88591
en_US.iso885915
en_US.utf8
en_ZA
en_ZA.iso88591

Thanks,
Trevor

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The draft RFC 18 specification is now ready for review:

http://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide/wiki/MapGuideRfc18

Please post any comments to this mailing list.

Thanks,

Bruce Dechant

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