[mapguide-internals] CS-Map in 2.1

[Haris Kurtagic]

I think it is very important that we have install with all data needed
to install and successfully run and use, no meter of size of it.
Other smaller packages, optional...
Haris

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[mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jason
Birch
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 6:28 AM
To: 'MapGuide Internals Mail List'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] CS-Map in 2.1

Well, I managed to shave another 20Mb of the installer by tweaking some
NSIS compression options; it's now down to 114MB, but you have to have
about 900MB of memory free on your build machine to create the .exe.

I know that Safe Software (who also use Mentor) builds FME with both
"standard" and "light" packages with the only difference being the
grids.  We could fairly easily do the same, depending on what Hugues has
to say about whether we can just omit the gdc files or if we have to
maintain alternate, commented-out, versions in our repository.

This would allow us to provide most value to our users at release points
(where we create both installers and allow users to choose) and also
allows us to distribute a smaller installer for development builds.

Jason

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[mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jackie
Ng
Sent: March-26-09 8:20 PM
To: mapguide-internals at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] CS-Map in 2.1


Can we go for a modular approach with CS-Map data files? 

Only bundle the essential data files and offer the rest as optional
downloads.

I really want a sub-100MB installer if possible.

- Jackie


How about 134Mb?  

LZMA appears to do a reasonable job of compressing these files.  It's
over twice what I was getting without them (about 61Mb), but I'd be
willing to live with this for at least the current release.

Hugues, what would the best approach be if we weren't going to bundle
MapGuide with the grids by default, and instead provided users with a
way of downloading an installer or zipfile post-install?

Looking at the way the Canada grid is disabled, I'm guessing that we
could probably just comment out all of the grid file references, leaving
the Fallback lines in place?  Or would it be better to just truncate or
not include the .gdc files; would CS-Map throw an exception that
MapGuide would handle in these cases, or would it cause the MapAgent to
crash hard (like it did when the .csv files were missing)?

Jackie, for now, I'm going to make the CS-Map dictionaries a top-level
install, not optional, and placed right under the main install
directory.  Currently, if someone installs the web tier on a different
server than the Server tier, it's not going to work.

Jason 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Ng
Sent: March-26-09 5:34 PM
To: mapguide-internals at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] CS-Map in 2.1

Somehow I'm not warm to the idea of a 270MB installer. Doesn't the web
tier require these dictionaries too? If we want to support a separate
server / web setup, then we'd have to package an additional copy of
these dictionaries, inflating it even more!

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