[mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project

Thu Apr 8 00:26:43 EDT 2010

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On 1 April 2010 04:57, Martin Morrison <martin.morrison at edsi.com> wrote:
> Yep.  It makes a great viewer.  The user can see the same interface they see in the office.  Simply have them replicate the data once in a blue moon and life is good.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Traian Stanev
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:47 PM
> To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
> Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
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>
> Who are presumably running the MapGuide server and web service locally on their disconnected laptop?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Martin Morrison
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 1:35 PM
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> Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
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> For disconnected users...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Traian Stanev
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:45 PM
> To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
> Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
>
> Hi Zack,
>
>
> Why should we be putting effort into demonstrating something (static map of the world) which Google Maps already does better than we can ever hope to do with OSM data?
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>
> Traian
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 9:46 AM
> To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
> Subject: Re: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
>
> don't we have SLD which we could consume?
>
> if FDO was transparent, FDO would not be an issue
>
> we should be domonstrating the best free global dataset
> with MG doing the rendering, anything less is a cop out
>
> for now simple php scripts can overcome the FDO polution
>
> so i reckon the first step, is to take a standards based SLD
> and import it into a mapguide map
>
> we can have a php script to overcome specific FDO class name
> issues between FDO providers
>
> then we have a really good dataset/map to reference
>
> OSM data is already available FDO readable, lets work with that,
> tho SQLlite i think is the best :)
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> z
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> On 28 March 2010 08:50, Traian Stanev <traian.stanev at autodesk.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree that OSM is perhaps not very relevant for the average MapGuide user (which is partly why I gave up :)). Maybe if someone wanted to use MapGuide's RenderingService as a pre-rendering backend for large scale map tiles, or to visualize OSM itself... But there are already dedicated renderers for OSM which produce similar quality to MapGuide, and there must be a way to directly consume their output as a backdrop in a MapGuide map -- that approach would be less effort.
>>
>> Traian
>>
>> P.S. By the way, a cool use for OSM is an offline maps application for Android, as shown here http://www.mapdroyd.com/
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jason Birch
>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 1:01 PM
>> To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
>> Subject: Re: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
>>
>> Someone could pipe it through FME (which supports all these formats) a
>> bit more easily :) Would have to somehow automate the process though,
>> so I guess licensing may be a concern. There are also some commandline
>> tools (like osm2pgsql) that could help get the data into a format we
>> can use with FDO. Sure would be nice to be able to start from SQLite
>> though.
>>
>> Not sure of the value as a sample dataset. Much of MapGuide's value
>> proposition is in its server-side capabilities, and without structured
>> data (assessment, zoning, etc) this may be hard to showcase. OSM is a
>> greatbackdrop though. Would be great if we could take a region with
>> extensive open geodata (DC? Vancouver?) and bundle/maintain a
>> high-intelligence local sample using both OSM and local gov't data.
>>
>> Jason
>>
>> On 2010-03-27, Traian Stanev <traian.stanev at autodesk.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A while back I started on some code to convert OSM data to FDO. I didn't
>>> finish coding it though, but I did get to the stage of parsing the XML and
>>> inserting a desired subset of attributes from it into a temporary SQLite
>>> database, which my plan was to convert to FDO SQLite format using a second
>>> conversion step (which would further classify the raw topology data, so you
>>> get a table for streets, a table for buildings, etc.)
>>>
>>> One piece of advice -- if you ever do this, use a custom stream reader which
>>> reads directly from the ZIP file using zlib and passes the decoded memory
>>> stream to your XML parser (I used libxml++, a lot better than Xerces IMO).
>>> This way you don't have to unzip the whole thing, and use up 120 Gigs on
>>> your drive.
>>>
>>> Traian
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>> [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Trevor
>>> Wekel
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 11:30 AM
>>> To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
>>> Subject: RE: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
>>>
>>> Hi Zac,
>>>
>>> I just did a bit of a pan around www.openstreetmap.org.  Oh boy.
>>>
>>> - World wide coverage
>>> - Multiple languages (English, Russian, Arabic, Mandarin, other..)
>>> - Street level detail for Canada, USA, Europe, Russia, and more
>>> - Points of interest, building footprints in some area
>>> - The full dataset in OSM XML is a 13GB bzip compressed image
>>>
>>> The data is also covered under a non-restrictive license.
>>>
>>> Great suggestion.  This is an impressive dataset.  Anyone want to download
>>> it and convert it to SDF?  I wonder if download.osgeo.org would let us post
>>> the whole dataset?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Trevor
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>>> [mailto:mapguide-internals-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer
>>> Sent: March 26, 2010 9:54 AM
>>> To: MapGuide Internals Mail List
>>> Subject: [mapguide-internals] MapGuide OSM Sample Project
>>>
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> I think it's high time we have a global OSM mapguide sample
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/mapguide-osm
>>>
>>> who's interested in helping author a MGP for sample based off OSM data?
>>>
>>> z
>>>
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