[mapguide-users] ArcSDE

Brad Nesom kidsmake6 at msn.com
Tue Oct 17 16:43:02 EDT 2006 

More on this... from osgeo that proves I am wrong. Now I know.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FDO_Provenance_Review#FDO_Goes_Open_Source
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Nesom [mailto:kidsmake6 at msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:38 PM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

I think you may be right Brian. I see definite references to autodesk fdo. I
had seen some of the same on the esri website but they are not so specific
as to the technology now that I look them up.
http://edndoc.esri.com/arcobjects/9.1/java/arcengine/com/esri/arcgis/datasou
rcesoledb/package-summary.html
It seems they have an esrifdo2ado implementation for oledb.

I have asked esri about the connection count from an autodesk map FDO and
they said that as long as it is using the SDE client it should not count
against the sde connections now termed (direct connections). I wouldn't be
surprised if they made the realization and started charging for those. They
don't usually give anything away.


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:34 PM
To: 'users at mapguide.osgeo.org'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

" ArcSDE FDO is ESRI software" - wow, really? I thought it was an Autodesk
wrapper around the ArcSDE client libraries. Did ESRI donate software towards
OSGEO?

Enterprise SDE would be available but the real question is whether you can
copy the dll's to other machine that will connect to that SDE database. My
guess is "yes" but I figured I ask here first.

cheers
brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Nesom [mailto:kidsmake6 at msn.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:01 PM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

You should probably check with ESRI, but as I understand it you can now in
9.1 use unlimited sde connections from an esri software. If you use direct
connectons then you have a limited number of sde connections. Unless I am
mistaken the ArcSDE FDO is ESRI software. If someone knows different that
would be the killing point.
Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:52 AM
To: 'users at mapguide.osgeo.org'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

thanks Robert

I know you probably cannot answer this definitively since its an ESRI
question but if you have ArcSDE installed on your server, you should be able
to use the client libraries on the same server (or any server that connects
to that ArcSDE instance), right?

cheers
brian



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Fortin [mailto:robert.fortin at autodesk.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:10 AM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

The ArcSDE client libs are not redistributable.  They need to come with
proper licensing from ESRI products.

RF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:17 AM
To: 'users at mapguide.osgeo.org'
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

thanks Orest, that was the page I was looking for.

are the sde client libraries distributable?

cheers
brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Orest Halustchak [mailto:orest.halustchak at autodesk.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:32 AM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE

Hi Brian,
 
Yes, the source code for the ArcSDE provider is available as open source
(https://fdoarcsde.osgeo.org/).
 
It uses SDE client libraries. You have to make sure that you have these
dll's available and in your path: sde91.dll, sg91.dll, and pe91.dll. It
does not currently support raster, but it does support versioned
databases through the FDO long transaction versioning commands.
 
Thanks,
Orest.
 

________________________________

From: Brian Flood [mailto:BFLOOD at SPATIALDATALOGIC.COM]
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:26 PM
To: users at mapguide.osgeo.org
Subject: [mapguide-users] ArcSDE



hello all

 

 a few questions on the ArcSDE SDO for Oracle/SQLServer

 

1) Is the source code available as part of the free community download?
If
no, any pointers on where to find out about Enterprise?

2) Does it use native SQL communication or does it rely on the SDEClient
libraries provided by ESRI?

3) How's the performance when compared to other SDE access layers? How
about
ESRI tools?

4) Does it have Raster support?

5) Long shot - does it work with Versioned geodatabases? (e.g. delta
tables)

 

cheers

brian


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