[Mapserver-dev] IMPORTANT - host site for mapserver-dev to change

[Thomas E Burk]

>From: Jan-Oliver Wagner <jan at intevation.de>
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>Subject: Re: [Mapserver-dev] IMPORTANT - host site for mapserver-dev to 
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>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 07:36:09 +0200
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>On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 12:25:12PM -0500, Thomas E Burk wrote:
>> You will soon need to resubscribe to this mailing list to continue your 
>> participation.
>
>Why don't you mass-subscribe those who are already on this list?
>

That causes problems due to improperly configured e-mail systems on the 
users end. We want to have the subscribe/confirm reimplemented so the list 
operates smoothly.

>> On October 31, 2004 at 22:00 (10:00PM) U.S. Central Daylight time (GMT 
-5:00) 
>> we will close down the existing mapserver-dev (at lists.gis.umn.edu) 
e-mail 
>> list. If you wish to continue participating on the list you will need 
to 
>> resubscribe. You can do that _after October 31, 2004_ by going to 
>> <http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mapserver-dev.html>. At that time there 
will be 
>> a link to 'Join or leave the list' where you can fill out a form.
>> 
>> The new list will be run by a group which offers listserv capability as 
part 
>> of their mission. It should be a positive change.
>> 
>> One major change we are making is to restrict access to the archives; 
the new 
>> archives will only be accessible to subscribers via a login. The first 
time 
>> you use the archives (search or browse) you will be asked to setup a 
password. 
>> You must use the same login e-mail that you subscribed to the list with 
-- 
>> only list members can view or search the archives. The is a 'no mail' 
>> subscription option for people who don't want e-mail sent to them (only 
wish 
>> to use the archive). Initially the old (which will still be available) 
and new 
>> archives WILL NOT be a single archive. That will change (as will 
access).
>
>I regard this a very bad idea. Search engines will not be able anymore
>to deliver results for the mapserver archives.
>
>What is the rationale behind resticting the access to the mailing list
>knowledge base? IMHO it would be a hurdle for the new users.
>

We have had many (vocal) complaints in the past that this exposes e-mail 
addresses to harvesters. Unfortuantely, the listserv software being used 
does not provide for global hiding of addresses in the archive it creates. 
There is a plan to create a separate archive, stripped of (or with 
modification of) addresses, that is searchable by anyone, anywhere. That 
is the change referred to in the earlier message.

If a majority of (mapserver-dev) listers want the archives open, they can 
be made so. That may be reasonable for this lower volume list. If I hear 
that, when I send out the second and final notice (Oct 27) of the move I 
will warn people that change will be made. Probably best to let me know 
opinions on this single matter off the list - send to tburk at umn.edu

Thanks for the feedback and your understanding,

Tom


>Best
>
>	Jan
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>Jan-Oliver Wagner               http://intevation.de/~jan/
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