[mapserver-users] slightly offtopic -- mapserver forums

[Puneet Kishor]

ok... no need for any more votes. I admit defeat. Now, I go back to my
previously televised web program.

pk/


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hockaday, John [mailto:JohnHockaday at auslig.gov.au]
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 5:02 PM
> To: mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> Subject: RE: [mapserver-users] slightly offtopic -- mapserver forums
> 
> 
> I agree with Daniel.  I wouldn't look at the web pages but I 
> do look at
> emails.
> 
> Please keep the email list.
> 
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Daniel Morissette [SMTP:morissette at dmsolutions.ca]
> > Sent:	Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:13 AM
> > To:	Puneet Kishor
> > Cc:	mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> > Subject:	Re: [mapserver-users] slightly offtopic -- 
> mapserver forums
> > 
> > Puneet Kishor wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hmmmm... I knew there would be detractors, but I didn't 
> expect the voice
> > of
> > > dissent so soon. :-)
> > > 
> > 
> > I was waiting quietly in the hope that there would be more 
> supporters of
> > the web option to consider their arguments... but since you 
> ask... ;)
> > 
> > ... I vote for keeping an Email-based list (just like I did 
> last time
> > this question came up)... I *never* have time to browse the web for
> > interesting threads to read... so if it doesn't fall in my 
> Inbox then
> > I'll never know that an issue came up.
> > 
> > This being said, if you want to mirror the list on the web somewhere
> > with a better archive then I'm with you on that, but the 
> basic concept
> > has to remain IMHO: there has to be a 100% Email service 
> for those who
> > prefer that.
> > 
> > 
> > > >
> > > > To address a couple of your wishes: you can search the
> > > > archives for this
> > > > list at 
> http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wilma/mapserver-users and
> > > > you'll find the archives there as well. You can browse 
> by date or by
> > > > thread, in one-month chunks.
> > > 
> > > I know. I've done that. And it sucks.
> > > 
> > 
> > I agree with the need for a better archive and search 
> engine.  But that
> > can be done without changing the current Email-based system 
> and could
> > address most of the needs that you expressed.  You could 
> even host this
> > secondary archive yourself without even telling UMN if you wanted.
> > 
> > 
> > > That said, how do I do the following with the current setup --
> > > 
> > > 1. Get emails only on a particular thread (most impt) ?
> > 
> > But how do you learn about that thread in the first place?  
> Most threads
> > on the MapServer list are 2 or 3 messages long at max, so 
> by the time
> > you subscribe then it's over.
> > 
> > > 2. If I am following the thread by searching the archives 
> (as suggested
> > > above), then how do I post to the thread -- I can't post 
> unless I am
> > > subscribed, and as soon as I subscribe I am back to 
> problem #1 above.
> > 
> > The requirement to subscribe in order to be allowed to post 
> was added in
> > order to limit SPAM AFAIK.  If you switch to a system where 
> you can post
> > by Email in a specific thread (you suggested that in your reply to
> > Allan) then you're back with the SPAM problem.  More 
> limited maybe, but
> > the potential for SPAM comes back.
> > 
> > > 3. How do I access my emails when I am away from my computer (I am
> > assuming
> > > not everyone has IMAP)?
> > 
> > You can always browse the web archives...
> > 
> > > 4. And (2nd most impt. after #1 above) how do I send an 
> attachment for a
> > few
> > > folks to view without having it broadcast to all 4 
> million (last count)
> > > Mapserver users :-)?
> > > 
> > 
> > How about sending a personal Email to those individuals 
> with just the
> > attachment in parallel to the list message? 
> > 
> > > I understand not everyone is gonna like the web way of 
> doing forums. I
> > do
> > > think it has some major advantages over the old listserv way.
> > > 
> > 
> > I guess I'm old then... and probably getting stubborn too!  ;)
> > 
> > -- 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >  Daniel Morissette               morissette at dmsolutions.ca
> >  DM Solutions Group              http://www.dmsolutions.ca/
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >   Don't put for tomorrow what you can do today, because if 
> >       you enjoy it today you can do it again tomorrow.
>