[Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS

Thu Jul 31 12:15:50 PDT 2003

Ed,

I would use some links or tips to learn about Apache and file permissions. 
The reason i'm contacting this list to get some tips from other people 
experiences. Otherwise, i can spend many days to learn appache, but this 
could be overkilling for my very basic needs. All i want is to be able to 
run this demo as a start then may be go deeper.

regards,

Jeff

>From: "Ed McNierney" <ed at topozone.com>
>To: "Jeff L." <nf10 at hotmail.com>,<mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu>
>Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
>Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:37:14 -0400
>
>Jeff -
>
>Well, you PROBABLY needed to check exactly one checkbox in IIS, which might 
>have been a tad quicker than installing a new server <g>.  Please do take 
>the time to understand what's going on - Apache is more permissive in its 
>default install, which means (a) it's easier for you to do things and (b) 
>it's easier for other people to do things to you.
>
>Your problem is due to (a) not having demo.map in the expected place, or 
>(b) not having the file permissions set correctly.  Be sure you understand 
>how Apache is setting and using user permissions.
>
>	- Ed
>
>Ed McNierney
>President and Chief Mapmaker
>TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
>73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
>North Chelmsford, MA  01863
>ed at topozone.com
>(978) 251-4242
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff L. [mailto:nf10 at hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:16 PM
>To: Ed McNierney; mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
>Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
>
>
>Ed,
>
>I agree that diging into the web server setup would help.
>
>For now, i uninstalled IIS, then installed Apache and MapServer: it's
>working: i got the the expected error ("No query information ...").
>
>Now i started to run the demo, loaded the "demo_init.html" and after 
>pushing
>the button, there was an error "msLoadMap(): Unable to access file ....
>demo.map". the path of the file is correct. I guess that this would be a
>permission file error, but not sure.
>
>Jeff Lacoste
>
>
>
> >From: "Ed McNierney" <ed at topozone.com>
> >To: "Jeff L." <nf10 at hotmail.com>,<mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu>
> >Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
> >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:19:42 -0400
> >
> >Jeff -
> >
> >I would not claim Apache is "easier" than IIS in this regard.  In 
>general,
> >I don't think either of them (we run both) is hard or easy - they're just
> >different, and you need to understand something about running Web servers
> >and running CGI services on Web servers in order to run MapServer.  Both
> >IIS and Apache have a security model that lets you control which files 
>are
> >available to which Web users, and what those users can do to those files
> >(run them, read them, write to them, etc.).
> >
> >Read the help on IIS - that's what it's for.  If you did a default
> >install/config you installed all the administration help files, and 
>they're
> >pretty reasonable.
> >
> >I'm not trying to be unhelpful, but if you don't understand the security
> >model and how it applies to Web services, you're going to keep bumping 
>into
> >one problem after another.  Take the time to understand how to set up 
>your
> >Web server, and THEN you'll be ready to set up MapServer.
> >
> >	- Ed
> >
> >Ed McNierney
> >President and Chief Mapmaker
> >TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
> >73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
> >North Chelmsford, MA  01863
> >ed at topozone.com
> >(978) 251-4242
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jeff L. [mailto:nf10 at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:15 PM
> >To: Ed McNierney; mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> >Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
> >
> >
> >Ed,
> >
> >I'm new to web configuration. All i did is installing IIS on my windows 
>XP
> >pro and then installed MapServ.
> >I guess that the web server is not configured, i have no idea how to do 
>it.
> >Any info is appreciated.
> >
> >I heard that Apache would work easier than IIS. Apache would need 
>specific
> >configuration or just a sandard installation ?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Jeff Lacoste
> >
> >
> > >From: "Ed McNierney" <ed at topozone.com>
> > >To: "Jeff L." <nf10 at hotmail.com>,<mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu>
> > >Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
> > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:47:16 -0400
> > >
> > >Jeff -
> > >
> > >If your Web server is configured correctly, there will be NO command
> >window
> > >opening and closing.  You'll get that error text in a regular Web page
> >that
> > >stays there.
> > >
> > >I suspect that the directory in which mapserv.exe is installed does not
> >let
> > >users execute programs (like CGI programs) from it.
> > >
> > >	- Ed
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Jeff L. [mailto:nf10 at hotmail.com]
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:27 AM
> > >To: Ed McNierney; mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> > >Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks Ed for your relpy.  MapServ is installed in the IIS of my 
>windows
> >XP
> > >machine. While trying to run it (localy from web browser pointing the
> > >"mapser.exe", the command window is opened then closed pretty fast. I
> >have
> > >no idea about the content of the command window. I'm not sure what
> >message
> > >was displayed there. At least if i know that was "No query information 
>to
> > >decode. QUERY_STRING not set." It can get me going to the next steps
> > >(running the demo).
> > >
> > >
> > >Thanks again
> > >
> > >Jeff Lacoste
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Ed McNierney" <ed at topozone.com>
> > > >To: "Jeff L." <nf10 at hotmail.com>,<mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu>
> > > >Subject: RE: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
> > > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:44:10 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Jeff -
> > > >
> > > >There's no problem - that's the way it's supposed to work!
> > > >
> > > >You can run MapServer from the command line with the "-v" switch, and
> > > >you'll get text output.  Normally CGI programs are not meant to be 
>run
> > >from
> > > >the command line, and MapServer is no exception.
> > > >
> > > >If you properly configure your Web site to allow users to execute CGI
> > > >programs, you should be able to type the following in your browser:
> > > >
> > > >http://server.yourdomain.com/mapserv
> > > >
> > > >(replace the server and domain names with your names)
> > > >
> > > >and get the error message:
> > > >
> > > >"No query information to decode. QUERY_STRING not set."
> > > >
> > > >in your browser window.
> > > >
> > > >Until you get to that point, you haven't managed to get a basic CGI
> > >program
> > > >running, so there's no point in doing anything else yet!
> > > >
> > > >	- Ed
> > > >
> > > >Ed McNierney
> > > >President and Chief Mapmaker
> > > >TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.
> > > >73 Princeton Street, Suite 305
> > > >North Chelmsford, MA  01863
> > > >ed at topozone.com
> > > >(978) 251-4242
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Jeff L. [mailto:nf10 at hotmail.com]
> > > >Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:29 AM
> > > >To: mapserver-users at lists.gis.umn.edu
> > > >Subject: [Mapserver-users] MapServer on Windows XP and IIS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >I installed MapServer on Windows XO and IIS. When i try to execute 
>the
> > > >mapserv from the command window (C:\Inetpub\Scripts\MapServ), i have 
>an
> > > >error: "This script can only be used to decode form results and 
>should
> >be
> > > >initiated as a CGI process via a httpd server ". I tried also to
> >execute
> > > >the
> > > >script from Internet Explorer. The result is a command window 
>displayed
> > > >then
> > > >closed fast.
> > > >
> > > >Any idea about the possible problem ?
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >
> > > >Jeff Lacoste
> > > >
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