Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

Sat Jan 15 05:09:58 EST 2005

  Zach,

The web service extensions may be things like .php being executed by a
PHP executable. Windows server has an Internet User. This "user" is
basically the visitor of the website, and the permissions for this user
are somewhat similar to linux, in the sense that this user must have
execute permissions in a folder, in order to make the webserver use the
executable. I did not have too much of an issue with IIS 5 in win2k, but
I agree that in windows XP, and especially when using IIS 6, the
security is not very transparent. It seems you have to specify things
three times over. If you can't get it right, or if you are not
comfortable about managing the security, perhaps Apache is a better
solution. Its security is more straightforward. We run Apache on windows
2003 server. The advantaves of 2003 server in terms of performance seem
to carry across to Apache just fine. But don't give up yet!

regards,

Jacob

-----Original Message-----
From: Zachary Stauber
To: Jacob Delfos; MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Sent: 1/15/2005 3:42 AM
Subject: RE: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

I have the C:\proj directory, and WebAdmin has rights on that, but I’ll
take off the web services extensions for .map and Mapserv.exe. It’s
really confusing. I don’t know if I have to set “scripts and
executables” on the directory that contains mapserv.exe, or set it on
the directory that contains the HTML site that runs it, or both, or
what. And why you have to set up application extensions and web
services extensions (and what’s the difference between those anyway) on
an executable when you ALREADY set the permissions on its directory to
“scripts and executables” is beyond me. And now Mr. Greenwood says that
you also have to give the WebAdmin permission as a user to execute
something. IIS is the most convoluted thing I’ve ever seen, and it
doesn’t help that there were two different versions in Win2k, and yet
more differences between the same version 6.0 on Win2k and Win2.003k,
and Mapserv.exe doesn’t work the same on any of them. I’ve gotten it to
work on the previous two, but our web server is 2003. :( Anyway, thanks
for the enlightenment.

-Zack

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From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On
Behalf Of Jacob Delfos
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:02 PM
To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

Zach,

You said you configured IIS to run .map files from mapserv executable.
This is not correct (AFAIK), because the map file contains information
mapserver uses. It is NOT a script being executed by mapserv.exe.
Therefore, if the .map file is requested from the server, depending on
how it is requested, it might go wrong. IIS 6.0 on Windows 2003 will
sometimes throw an inappropriate "page not found" error, if the actual
problem is something to do with security.

Does your "proj" directory exist? Is it worth checking permissions on
that?

It might help if you listed the directories you created, and the
permissions you set on them.

regards,

Jacob

-----Original Message-----
From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On
Behalf Of Ed McNierney
Sent: 14 January 2005 09:44
To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU <mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

Zach –

IIS doesn’t “let the file not be found” – it can’t find it. What is the
URL you are using to refer to your MapServer executable? Do you have a
virtual directory (if necessary) set up there? If you use the IIS
administration tool, can you browse to the mapserv.exe file and find it
along the path you expect?

What is the URL you are using that triggers that error?

And please ALWAYS reply to the entire list….

- Ed

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From: Zachary Stauber [mailto:zstauber at bhinc.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:09 PM
To: Ed McNierney
Subject: RE: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

Well, I'm just trying to display the basic Itasca map they offer up on
the Mapserver site http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/dload.html
<http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/dload.html> , I get the standard message
which tells me nothing I can use to find the source of the problem (the
general check engine light of the web server world):

I. The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

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Please try the following:

Make sure that the Web site address displayed in the address bar of your
browser is spelled and formatted correctly.
If you reached this page by clicking a link, contact the Web site
administrator to alert them that the link is incorrectly formatted.
Click the Back button to try another link.
A. HTTP Error 404 - File or directory not found.
Internet Information Services (IIS)

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Technical Information (for support personnel)

Go to Microsoft Product Support Services and perform a title search for
the words HTTP and 404.
· Open IIS Help, which is accessible in IIS Manager
(inetmgr), and search for topics titled Web Site Setup, Common
Administrative Tasks, and About Custom Error Messages.

So based on this one would think that the mapserv.exe is in the wrong
place or misspelled, but it’s in the exact same place as I have it on a
Windows 2000 install that works fine, and the .map and .html files are
exact copies of those. So what this error is really telling me is that
IIS 6.0 is not letting the mapserv.exe be found or run.

-Zack

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed McNierney [mailto:ed at topozone.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:56 PM
To: Zachary Stauber; MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
<mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
Subject: RE: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

Zack -

MapServer works just fine under Windows 2003 Standard and IIS 6.0, and

there's plenty of "proof" of that!

But you do need to take the time to understand how your new tools work

rather than blaming them (or MapServer). You gave us a lot of

information in your email (thanks) but you didn't say what didn't work!

What is the symptom you're seeing? What are you doing, and what is the

(unexpected) result you're getting?

- Ed

Ed McNierney

President and Chief Mapmaker

TopoZone.com / Maps a la carte, Inc.

73 Princeton Street, Suite 305

North Chelmsford, MA 01863

ed at topozone.com <mailto:ed at topozone.com>

(978) 251-4242

-----Original Message-----

From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On

Behalf Of Zachary L. Stauber

Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:21 PM

To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU <mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Subject: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] Windows 2003 Standard IIS 6.0 trouble

Hi, I'm using Windows 2003 Standard, and I'm trying to get MapServ.exe

to work on it. Right now I'm just trying out the Itasca dataset. It's

a permissions problem. Does anyone have a vaguely detailed process for

setting the permissions or configuring Web Access Extensions or

Application Extensions (or whatever hates MapServer so much) so it gets

past the top level security junk in IIS 6.0?

I have the same version, 4.4.0-beta3 working fine on a Windows XP SP2

machine, with all the files in exactly the same places. The EXE and all

DLL's are in C:\InetPub\scripts\MapServer\ the C:\Proj data has a copy

of everything it's supposed to, and the Itasca data starts in

C:\InetPub\wwwroot\MapServer\NCTCOG\mapserver_demos\workshop

Before you ask, I set all the directories mentioned above to give

WebAdmin all rights (except full control), I changed all the paths to

the correct places in the "index.html" file, which shows the Itasca map

fine under Windows XP SP2, and I added a "MapServer" entry to the Web

Service Extensions and added every EXE and DLL that it uses with

"Allow." I also set the Web Service Extensions to "Allow" "All Unknown

CGI Extensions" by default (actually that was set when I got here).

I also made the NCTCOG directory in wwwroot a virtual directory and set

"read" permission, set execute permissions to "Script and Executables,"

and created an application extension for ".map" files and set it to the

mapserv.exe executable. I also did all this for the

C:\InetPub\scripts\Mapserver directory just in case.

What else can I do to loosen this thing up? Does anyone actually have

it working under Windows 2003 Standard? I haven't found proof of this

in over a year of back archives on this mailing list.

-Zack Stauber

Systems Analyst

Bohannan-Huston, Inc.

Albuquerque, NM

USA