MapServer Foundation - Open Letter

Rick Levine Richard_D_Levine at RAYTHEON.COM
Mon Nov 28 14:15:50 PST 2005


I looked through the images and found this rather disturbing site (if you
are easily disturbed.)

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/logos/platypus/!INDEX.html

Seems somebody wanted the platypus for the Linux logo.  Do not tell Tux he
was second string....

Rick

UMN MapServer Users List <MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU> wrote on
11/28/2005 04:55:46 PM:

> In case some aren't familiar enough with the lovable platypus ...
> which by the way has the densest fur of the animal kingdom ..
>
> http://images.google.ca/images?q=platypus&hl=en
>
> Ken
>
>
> On 11/28/05, Andy Canfield <andy.canfield at gmail.com> wrote:
> > In light of that I would like to change my vote to Platypus as well.
> >
> > On 11/28/05, Ken Lord <kenlord at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I disagree, there certainly is a connection for the platypus
andMapServer!
> > >
> > > The platypus was once a creature that the establishment refused to
> > > believe in. The 'scientists' considered it to be a hoax, a joke, and
> > > an impossibility. Some even stood up shouting against the existance
of
> > > the furry creature.
> > >
> > > ... Much like the way every ESRI salesman at every conference I've
> > > been to has dealt with MapServer ... lies, jokes, and denials about
> > > everything we all know to be true.
> > >
> > > And much like how the tricky platypus covertly sneaks up to his prey,
> > > the shrimp, using electromagnetic detectors in his bill ... I've had
> > > much enjoyment leading those ESRI salesmen into stating their lies so
> > > that I could embarass them.
> > >
> > > And finally, today's massive acknowlegement of the MapServer project
> > > by AutoDesk is akin to them having received a defensive jab of poison
> > > from the Platypus' venomous rear claws.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ken Lord
> > > Vancouver BC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 11/28/05, Rick Levine <Richard_D_Levine at raytheon.com> wrote:
> > > > The platypus rocks!  If there is an intelligent designer
> (cough) it shows
> > > > either a sense of humor or a need for rehab.  That said, uh,
> there is not
> > > > much mapping connection.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > > > UMN MapServer Users List <MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU> wrote on
> > > > 11/28/2005 02:56:54 PM:
> > > >
> > > > > Three comments:
> > > > >
> > > > > Pro MapServer: Mapguide is dead! now onwards to slay ArcIMS!
> > > > >
> > > > > Con MapServer: I for one welcome our new Autodesk overlords.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for the naming: I've always been fond of the platypus.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Ken Lord
> > > > > Vancouver BC
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 11/28/05, Ed McNierney <ed at topozone.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Well, both DM Solutions and Autodesk issued press releasestoday
that
> > > > > > will be widely reprinted and reported in the press.  Each
> stated that
> > > > > > MapServer "will be called/renamed MapServer Cheetah".
> That's going to
> > > > > > cause confusion if that's not correct, and will be
> confusing to undo.
> > > > > > If the name's not a done deal, it shouldn't have been
announced.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At least in Autodesk's release the UMN MapServer package isn't
> > > > mentioned
> > > > > > until the sixth paragraph, so maybe it won't be noticed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >        - Ed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: UMN MapServer Users List [mailto:MAPSERVER-
> USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU]
> > > > On
> > > > > > Behalf Of Steve Lime
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 2:38 PM
> > > > > > To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] MapServer Foundation -
> Open Letter
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The name is not a done deal, merely a suggestion that some of
the
> > > > > > developer types came up with. We need a way to differentiate
the UMN
> > > > > > MapServer that does not imply legacy (e.g. MapServer
> Classic) since UMN
> > > > > > MapServer is not going anywhere. The idea behind cheetah was
that it
> > > > > > represents speed and agility. Certainly other animals,
> plants, insects
> > > > > > or objects might do a better job (and result in a better logo).
Fire
> > > > > > away...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>> Andy Canfield <andy.canfield at GMAIL.COM> 11/28/05 1:18 PM
>>>
> > > > > > Do we get a say or is this already a done deal? From what
> I read on the
> > > > > > DM Solutions site it seems like this is pretty much a done
deal.
> > > > > > If it's not I like "Osprey" as they have always been my
> favorite bird
> > > > of
> > > > > > prey and I like the raptor idea way better than the cheeta
thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/28/05, Abe Gillespie <abe.gillespie at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > I like the raptor idea.  You got my vote Chip!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > See, this is how "community" is *supposed* to work.  :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Abe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 11/28/05, Fawcett, David <David.Fawcett at state.mn.us>
wrote:
> > > > > > > > The dolphin may be taken in the opensource world as
well....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.mysql.com/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: UMN MapServer Users List
> > > > > > > > [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Sears, Jeremy
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:04 PM
> > > > > > > > To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] MapServer Foundation -
Open
> > > > > > > > Letter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I concur.
> > > > > > > > How about a dolphin? They're fast, agile and
> intelligent. If TV has
> > > > > > > > taught us anything they are also friendly and fun to
> work with...
> > > > > > > > just like Mapserver.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jeremy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: UMN MapServer Users List
> > > > > > > > [mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU]On
> > > > > > > > Behalf Of Abe Gillespie
> > > > > > > > Sent: November 28, 2005 1:55 PM
> > > > > > > > To: MAPSERVER-USERS at LISTS.UMN.EDU
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] MapServer Foundation -
Open
> > > > > > > > Letter
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Honestly, Cheetah?  Hasn't Apple already monopolized
> all the large
> > > > > > > > cat names?  Besides, there's an HTML server named Tomcat.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let's start our own naming cliche.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Abe
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 11/28/05, Tyler Mitchell <tylermitchell at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Are there any graphics wizards out there who could
doctor a
> > > > > > > > > > photo of
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a cheetah to look something like the cow in the
> attached jpeg?
> > > > > > > > > > (I'm told that's a moo-cator projection...)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You guys are sorta twisted ;)  and I'm even worse because
I'll
> > > > > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > try something tonight :)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'm really excited about the foundation developments.  I
have
> > > > some
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > notes
> > > > > > > > online about all the possible things a foundation could do:
> > > > > > > > > http://ms.gis.umn.edu/community/foundation
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I look forward to your comments/feedback (but
> suggest it be moved
> > > > > > > > > over
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the foundation mailing list instead).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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