[mapserver-users] projection = geographer's pain

Monier Clement clement.monier at v-trafic.com
Mon Oct 27 09:09:55 PDT 2008


Of course !
You're right, that's why it didn't work.
The bbox/extent should be in the same projection than the output system.
Thanks for all Jukka & Pietro !

I'll now try to figure out why GoogleMaps supplies some PixelToLongLat
function to their Tile Overlay system, if longlat don't fit their actual
projection system !

Clément 


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Rahkonen Jukka [mailto:Jukka.Rahkonen at mmmtike.fi] 
Envoyé : lundi 27 octobre 2008 15:19
À : Monier Clement; mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org
Objet : Re: [mapserver-users] projection = geographer's pain

Monier Clement wrote:

Hi, 

There is bigger than tiny difference in extents in epsg:4326 and in
epsg:3785.  The latter is using meters as an unit.
I had a try with Finland polygon and here are the results:

D:\TEMP>ogrinfo -summary Finland_WGS84.shp Finland_WGS84
Feature Count: 1
Extent: (19.648331, 59.804989) - (31.587299, 70.079422)

D:\TEMP>ogr2ogr -f "ESRI Shapefile" -s_srs epsg:4326 -t_srs epsg:900913
Finland_
Spherical.shp Finland_WGS84.shp

D:\TEMP>ogrinfo -summary Finland_Spherical.shp Finland_Spherical
Feature Count: 1
Extent: (2187242.167179, 8356448.200347) - (3516282.078834, 11094615.004724)

-Jukka-


> Hi,
> 
> I got the map extent from shpinfo. 
> Beside, I know that there should only be a tiny difference 
> between coordinates in latlon-wgs84 (data proj) and "web 
> spherical mercator" (map proj).
> 
> You'll find the whole test-case files as attachement.
> 
> Here's the command line to get the map :
> C:\ms4w\tools\mapserv\shp2img -m 
> C:\ms4w\apps\gmap\htdocs\test.map -o test.png -l layer1 -i agga
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Clément	
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Rahkonen Jukka [mailto:Jukka.Rahkonen at mmmtike.fi]
> Envoyé : lundi 27 octobre 2008 12:46
> À : Monier Clement; mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org Objet : 
> VS: [mapserver-users] projection = geographer's pain
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Have you double-checked that your map extent correspods with 
> the map projection?
> Or if you could send your whole mapfile I am pretty sure that 
> you will get a final answer to your problem.
> 
> -Jukka Rahkonen-
> 
> > -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> > Lähettäjä: mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> > [mailto:mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] Puolesta Monier 
> > Clement
> > Lähetetty: 27. lokakuuta 2008 13:39
> > Vastaanottaja: 'Pietro Giannini'; mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org
> > Aihe: RE: [mapserver-users] projection = geographer's pain
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your answers Roger & Pietro.
> > 
> > I've followed your advice by trying these 4 test-cases :
> > 
> > 1) 
> > Map proj set to :   "init=epsg:3785" (web spherical Mercator, 
> > manually added
> > into espg file)
> > Layer proj set to : "init=epsg:4326" (latlon wgs84, proj 
> system of my
> > shapefiles)
> > 
> > => got a blank map
> > 
> > 2)
> > Map projection set to : "init=epsg:4326"
> > Layer projection set to : "init=epsg:4326"
> > 
> > => got a map
> > 
> > 3)
> > Map projection set to : "init=epsg:3785"
> > Layer projection set to : "init=epsg:3785"
> > 
> > => got the same map as 2)
> > 
> > 4)
> > Map projection set to : "init=epsg:4326"
> > Layer projection set to : "init=epsg:3785"
> > 
> > => got a blank map
> > 
> > I've also tried with another well-known existing epsg proj-system 
> > (instead of the manually-added 3785 code), but got the same results.
> > I've made other attempts by replacing "init=3785" by full 
> description 
> > proj-string like "+proj=longlat +ellps=WGS84
> > +datum=WGS84 +no_defs  no_defs"
> > or "+proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0 +lon_0=0.0
> > +x_0=0.0 +y_0=0
> > +k=1.0 +units=m +nadgrids=@null  no_defs"
> > But it didn't change anything...
> > 
> > It seems that :
> > - a map is drawn only if the map's and layer's proj-systems are the 
> > same.
> > - the output projection is always overridden by the 
> shapefile system, 
> > no re-projection is done anyway.
> > 
> > Let me know if you have any further leads to solve this issue.
> > 
> > Thanks for your help
> > 
> > Clément	
> > 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> > [mailto:mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] De la part 
> de Pietro 
> > Giannini Envoyé : vendredi 24 octobre 2008 21:40 À
> > : mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org Objet : Re: 
> > [mapserver-users] projection = geographer's pain
> > 
> > I can confirm that projection is often a pain!
> > 
> > However, the problem may be in the projection of the layer.
> > 
> > The PROJECTION section in a layer declare the projection of 
> the data 
> > source of this layer, while the PROJECTION on the map level is the 
> > projection wich you want to show the whole map. So you can overlay 
> > more data sources in different projection in a single map.
> > 
> > Try to set the layer PROJECTION as "init=epsg:4326".
> > Let us know...
> > ciao
> > ........................... pg
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Pietro Giannini
> > Bytewise srl - Area GIS
> > 41°50'38.58"N 12°29'13.39"E
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Ven, Ottobre 24, 2008 16:55, Monier Clement wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm running MS4W v2.2.8 (including MapServer 5.2) on windows.
> > >
> > > My datasource is shapefiles with WGS84 projection (epsg:4326).
> > >
> > > I would like MapServer to render these data into a "Web 
> (spherical) 
> > > Mercator" projected map (epsg:3785) in order to perfectly
> > overlay the
> > > GoogleMaps tile images (for the moment, my maps are 
> slightly shifted
> > > north.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've added this string at the end of the file "epsg" in
> > /ms4w/proj/nad :
> > >
> > > <3785> +proj=merc +a=6378137 +b=6378137 +lat_ts=0.0
> > +lon_0=0.0 +x_0=0.0
> > > +y_0=0 +k=1.0 +towgs84=0,0,0,0,0,0,0 +units=m
> > +nadgrids=@null +no_defs <>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But I don't know how to modify my request and mapfile in
> > order to get the
> > > correct map.
> > >
> > > I've tried many combinations so far but with no success until now.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Do I have to change the projection system of my shapefiles ?
> > >
> > > Is MapServer able to change projection between input and output ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Request : "&SRS=epsg:3785"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > MapFile :
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Map section]
> > >
> > >   METADATA
> > >
> > >     "wms_srs"   "EPSG:4326 EPSG:3785" # is this correct ?
> > >
> > >   END
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PROJECTION
> > >
> > >    "init=epsg:3785" # is this correct ?
> > >
> > > END
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Layer section]
> > >
> > >   METADATA
> > >
> > >     "wms_srs"   "EPSG:3785" # is this correct ?
> > >
> > >   END
> > >
> > >   PROJECTION
> > >
> > >    "init=epsg:3785" # is this correct ?
> > >
> > >   END
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > With these settings, the pictures I got from MapServer are
> > still shifted.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Clement
> > >
> > >
> > >
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