[mapserver-users] upgrade Mapserver 5.4 to 6.0 (gulp!)

Fri Jun 10 14:30:10 PDT 2011

Just my opinion. But the koolest thing is we do have choices!!

ELGIS is nice, but I found it more limited in terms of supported packages (that I use anyway) & speed of update to new versionscompared to both OpenSuse & Ubuntu.

My computer use pretty much revolves around Open Source GIS stuff (& has done for over 10 years now). I've been a somewhat promiscuous Linux user, jumping to whichever made my life easiest for a click & go Linux GIS workstation.

For a few years, OpenSuse ruled my desktop, but for the last 18 months or so I have felt UbuntuGIS has the edge. There are still things I prefer about OpenSuse, some nice things about Fedora too, but for something that just installs and runs on desktops, notebooks & netbooks, & has a full, well maintained GIS repository, with everything I need (almost anyway - no hi res & full res GHSSH for GMT :-), for now I'm running Ubuntu.  

I'm not saying it's best for everyone, just passing on my experience.

See:

Ubuntu stable: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ppa
Ubuntu unstable: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntugis/+archive/ubuntugis-unstable
 (also note there are many related packages in other repositories)

OpenSUSE:GEO: 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Application:/Geo/openSUSE_11.4/x86_64/

Cheers,

  Brent Wood

--- On Fri, 6/10/11, Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH <michael.smith at usace.army.mil> wrote:

From: Smith, Michael ERDC-CRREL-NH <michael.smith at usace.army.mil>
Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] upgrade Mapserver 5.4 to 6.0  (gulp!)
To: "Chris Green" <chris.green at ibstv.co.uk>, pcreso at pcreso.com
Cc: mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org
Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 10:06 PM

Re: [mapserver-users] upgrade Mapserver 5.4 to 6.0  (gulp!)
For Fedora, I think you want the EPEL and ELGIS repos.

See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Enterprise_Linux_GIS

Mike

-- 

Michael Smith

Remote Sensing/GIS Center

US Army Corps of Engineers

On 6/10/11 3:34 AM, "Chris Green" <chris.green at ibstv.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Brent

Thank you for your very helpful comments, much appreciated. It is pretty clear to me that I have to start by changing my elderly Fedora to something better suited to supporting GIS applications including Mapserver 6.0. It is strange – I’m not at all afraid of PHP/Mapscript (although the documentation is not great) or of Javascript, but the whole Linux world is just so confusing that I get a form of paralysis by analysis soon after I start trying to compare the different options. 

Anyway I will certainly take a look at Ubuntu / OpenSuse.

Chris

From: pcreso at pcreso.com [mailto:pcreso at pcreso.com] 

Sent: 10 June 2011 07:21

To: chris.green at ibstv.co.uk

Cc: mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org

Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] upgrade Mapserver 5.4 to 6.0 (gulp!)

Hi Chris, 

I'm a Suse/Ubuntu user, in both cases totally because of the well supported GIS related packages for these distros. So I have completely avoided the issues are facing right now :-) Though I'd imagine it will not be long before 6.0 is available natively for Fedora, given 5.6 is supported.

I'm not too familiar with the RH Linux family, but the OpenSuse Geo repository partially supports Centos & RH4/5, and I have found the maintainers there to be very helpful. If a RH or Centos build will be compatible with Fedora, it would be worth asking around there. Mapserver is not currently built for these distros, but someone may be prepared to do this for you.

http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/Application:/Geo/

Personally, I'd suggest you switch to a distro that does what you want, & if that includes well maintained & supported, pre-built mapserver (& related) packages, Ubuntu & OpenSuse are well worth considering.

HTH,

  Brent Wood

--- On Fri, 6/10/11, Smith, Michael D ERDC-CRREL-NH <michael.smith at usace.army.mil> wrote:

From: Smith, Michael D ERDC-CRREL-NH <michael.smith at usace.army.mil>

Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] upgrade Mapserver 5.4 to 6.0 (gulp!)

To: "Chris Green" <chris.green at ibstv.co.uk>, "'Stephen Woodbridge'" <woodbri at swoodbridge.com>, mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org

Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 3:31 AMChris,

What Linux OS are you on? There are packages for Ubuntu, Debian, RHEL, etc.

See http://mapserver.org/download.html#linux

On 6/9/11  11:04 AM, "Chris Green" <chris.green at ibstv.co.uk </mc/compose?to=chris.green at ibstv.co.uk> > wrote:

> Hi Steve

> 

> Thanks for your comments. I have read the documentation and realise that

> there will be quite a few changes to my mapfile(s). I'm not at all worried

> about that, it's just a question of patiently working through the changes.

> However I am very apprehensive of the upgrade itself. Before I installed the

> FGS package I spent many, many hours trying to compile and install Mapserver

> myself but eventually had to admit defeat and resort to FGS.

> 

> Now there is no FGS to fall back on, I'm hoping for some guidance (or maybe

> just some encouragement!)

> 

> 

> Chris

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org </mc/compose?to=mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> 

> [mailto:mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org </mc/compose?to=mapserver-users-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> ] On Behalf Of Stephen

> Woodbridge

> Sent: 09 June 2011 15:42

> To: mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org </mc/compose?to=mapserver-users at lists.osgeo.org> 

> Subject: Re: [mapserver-users] upgrade Mapserver 5.4 to 6.0 (gulp!)

> 

> On 6/9/2011 8:58 AM, Chris Green wrote:

>> Hi All

>> 

>> I have been running Mapserver 5.4 for about 18 months on a Fedora core 7

>> Unix platform. I installed it via the FGS installer package which made

>> the installation process relatively straightforward.

>> 

>> Now I see that Mapserver 6.0 has been released and it includes some

>> features that I really want to take advantage of, particularly the

>> ability to cluster dense features. My problem is that apparently the FGS

>> package has not been updated, so from the Mapserver website it looks

>> like I have start from scratch with a scarily long list of libraries and

>> compilations required to install Mapserver 6.0 from scratch. As

>> something of a Unix novice I don't fancy this very much!

>> 

>> I am wondering if there is a simple way to in effect replace my existing

>> Mapserver 5.4 executable with Mapserver 6.0 - could I assume that

>> Mapserver 6.0 only requires the same libraries as 5.4 and just compile

>> the 6.0 executable? Any guidance on the direction to take here would be

>> gratefully received.

> 

> Hi Chris,

> 

> Be aware that 5.4 to 6.0 is probably NOT a transparent upgrade from a

> mapfile point of view. Make sure you read the mapserver migration guide.

> One of the big changes that we made in 6.0 was to clean up some of the

> mapfile syntax and remove some deprecated tags. These should not be

> major changes but it is likely that some (all?) of your mapfiles will

> need to be tweaked to get them to work.

> 

> So please plan accordingly.

> 

> -Steve W

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