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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Christine -</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>It sounds like you're off to a good start! I'll try
to contribute, and there are others with different expertise who can chime in as
well. Be sure to send replies to the entire list, not just to the sender,
since you've got a number of questions that are best answered by a few different
people.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial><U><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Question</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT
color=red><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I set this up as a CGI in IIS6. Is there an SAPI
version for IIS?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p><SPAN
class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#008000><STRONG>Answer:</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p><SPAN
class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#008000><STRONG> </STRONG></FONT><FONT
color=#008000><STRONG>No, there is no ISAPI version for IIS. Using
MapServer as a CGI will work fine. Since you got the appropriate error
message, you've got the permissions (for executing CGI, etc.) set up
properly</STRONG></FONT>.</FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p><SPAN class=405203717-01032005>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial><U><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Questions</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT
color=red><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I read somewhere that PHP will not work with MapServer
unless it is set up as a CGI. Is this true?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">3.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Supposedly they were working on the SAPI version.
Is this available yet?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p><FONT
color=#008000><STRONG><FONT face=Arial> <SPAN
class=405203717-01032005>Answer:</SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p><SPAN
class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial
color=#008000><STRONG> You should use PHP as a CGI. This
is simpler and avoids problems with
multithreading.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></P><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p><SPAN class=405203717-01032005>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial><U><FONT color=red><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Questions</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT
color=red><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN style="mso-list: Ignore">4.<SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"><FONT
size=2> </FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Where do I put the php_mapscript_44.dll
file?</SPAN></FONT></P></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=405203717-01032005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#008000
size=2><STRONG>Answer:</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=405203717-01032005><FONT face=Arial color=#008000
size=2><STRONG> You should think about the MapServer CGI and
the MapScript DLL as two different applications built upon the same MapServer
libraries. There's a core of map-rendering functionality that can be
wrapped with a CGI interface (mapserv.exe) or with a PHP scripting interface
(php_mapscript_44.dll). While they share a lot of code, of course, these
two are completely separate applications, and they are quite independent of each
other. php_mapscript_44.dll is a PHP "module" and is loaded by the PHP
interpreter when it is referenced by a PHP script being executed. The
MapServer CGI does not use the php_mapscript_44.dll file at
all.</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=405203717-01032005></SPAN><SPAN
class=405203717-01032005></SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><FONT
face=Arial>Y<SPAN class=405203717-01032005>ou're doing very well for having a
lot of new stuff thrown at you. Do not worry about ISAPI implementations
or the "performance penalty" of CGI (a limitation that, IMHO, has been greatly
oversold by Microsoft). If - after you've got everything working well -
you think there are performance gains to be had by improving on the CGI
interface, we can talk about that then. But let's make work correctly
first, THEN make it work faster <g>.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=405203717-01032005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=405203717-01032005> - Ed</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Century Gothic"><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=405203717-01032005>
<P><FONT size=2>Ed McNierney<BR>President and Chief Mapmaker<BR>TopoZone.com /
Maps a la carte, Inc.<BR>73 Princeton Street, Suite 305<BR>North Chelmsford,
MA 01863<BR>ed@topozone.com<BR>(978) 251-4242
</FONT></P></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> UMN MapServer Users List
[mailto:MAPSERVER-USERS@LISTS.UMN.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Lisi,
Christine<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 01, 2005 12:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
MAPSERVER-USERS@LISTS.UMN.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] A
confused Network Admin<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Prior to last week, I had no experience with PHP,
MapServer, MapScript, MapSurfer, etc. and have been thrown into this very
confusing and frustrating Open Source world. I have successfully installed
ArcSDE, MapServer and PHP, but I have no idea how each piece talks to the other
and whether or not they will work once our consultant visits. I am only
responsible for the setup of the apps, and the rest will be up to our engineers
and the consultant. I have several questions and I hope some of you can
answer them in a language I can understand. Please remember that I
honestly don’t understand how these applications work at all. I am a
Network Admin and Application Specialist, but have no experience with
GIS/Mapping, etc.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Our Server</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Windows Server 2003<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">IIS6<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">ArcSDE 9.0 w/ SP2<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">SQL Server 2000 w/ SP3a<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">General Notes</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">For all of the installs below I used environment
variables and set the System Path to point to the individual application
directories. I did NOT copy any .dll’s to my System32 directory.
This is definitely a preferred method for me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">MAPSERVER (v. 4.4.1)</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I followed the instructions in the README-install.txt
and successfully received the “No query information to decode.
QUERY_STRING is set, but empty.” message.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Question</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">1.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I set this up as a CGI in IIS6. Is there an SAPI
version for IIS?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">PHP (v5.0.3</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">):<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I followed the instructions in the install.txt and set
this up as a server module (SAPI). I did run the .exe file, but I then
configured it manually as a server module per the instructions. There was
nothing in the documentation about how to test this program so after about an
hour of research on the PHP web site I read how to create a Hello.php file and
put it in the wwwroot folder and had successful results. I assume the
software is working.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Questions</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">2.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I read somewhere that PHP will not work with MapServer
unless it is set up as a CGI. Is this true?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">3.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Supposedly they were working on the SAPI version.
Is this available yet?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">PHP/MAPSCRIPT MAPSERVER MODULE</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I downloaded this module and read the README.txt.
I’m very confused as to whether this is a module for MapServer or PHP. The
download for this module included several .dll’s that are already in my
MapServer directory.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Questions</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">4.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Where do I put the php_mapscript_44.dll
file?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">5.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How do I test it?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">MAPSURFER (v1.5)</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I downloaded and extracted the files. Per the
README.txt file, I edited the mapper.html file and set the location of the
MapServer cgi program and the .map definition file (var mapserver =
'/cgi-bin/mapserv.exe'; var mapfile = 'test.map';”<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><U><FONT face="Century Gothic" color=red size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">Questions</SPAN></FONT></U><FONT color=red
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red">:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">6.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Where do I put the extracted MapSurfer folder? I
put it in the wwwroot folder. The Readme.txt file says to “Put the
MapSurfer directory somewhere accessible to the web.” This is not
clear to me.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="MARGIN-LEFT: 42pt; TEXT-INDENT: -0.25in; mso-list: l3 level1 lfo2"><![if !supportLists]><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN
style="mso-list: Ignore">7.<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=1><SPAN
style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'">
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><![endif]><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">How do I test this?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Thank you to all of you who read these messages. I
have to give you credit because I am very confused! I welcome any
comments, even those that do not apply to my
questions.<U><o:p></o:p></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal
style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><STRONG><B><FONT
face="Century Gothic" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic'">Christine
Lisi</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG><B><FONT color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue"><BR></SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=blue size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: blue">Application
Specialist</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><FONT
face="Century Gothic" color=blue size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: blue">Management Information Systems • City of
</SPAN></FONT><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Delray
Beach</SPAN></FONT></st1:place></st1:City><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=1><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> •
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">100 NW First Avenue</st1:Street>,
<st1:City w:st="on">Delray Beach</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">FL</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">33444</st1:PostalCode></st1:address></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone, 561-243-7142 •
Fax, 561-243-7166 • eMail, </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Century Gothic" color=blue
size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century Gothic'"><A
href="mailto:Lisi@MyDelrayBeach.com"><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Lisi@MyDelrayBeach.com</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=1><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 7.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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