<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Hi Jukka,<div><br></div><div>Your suggestions are a good start.</div><div><br></div><div>QGIS does not display the same image, depending on the WMS version?</div><div>With debug logs, I noticed that mapserver is "calling" mapcache and the underlying GPKG layer with different zoom values</div><div><ul><li>V1.1.1 : zoom = 9<br> /layers/baselayers/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.1&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=20.01075873940679628%2C37.79416048728808875%2C21.97950873940680339%2C39.03297139830504392&SRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=1416&HEIGHT=891&LAYERS=osm_4326&STYLES=&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&DPI=144&MAP_RESOLUTION=144&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi%3A144&TRANSPARENT=TRUE<br>/layers/baselayers/wmts/1.0.0/osm_4326/default/WGS84/9/147/568.png</li><li>V1.3.0 : zoom = 10<br> /layers/baselayers/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=37.79416048728808875%2C20.01075873940679628%2C39.03297139830504392%2C21.97950873940680339&CRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=1416&HEIGHT=891&LAYERS=osm_4326&STYLES=&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&DPI=144&MAP_RESOLUTION=144&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi%3A144&TRANSPARENT=TRUE<br>/layers/baselayers/wmts/1.0.0/osm_4326/default/WGS84/10/296/1149.png</li></ul>It is just as if mapserver is not computing the resolution the same way, depending on the WMS version.</div><div><br></div><div>I modified the V1.1.1 request with :</div><div><ul><li>CRS=CRS:84 (instead of EPSG:4326)</li><li>VERSION=1.3.0 (on coordinate inversion with this code)</li></ul><div>With these modifications, the response is identical to V1.1.1</div></div><div><br></div><div>Conclusion ?</div><div>There might be some resolution computation error (or approximation) when axis orders are swapped.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks again for your help </div><div>Philippe</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 1:08 PM Rahkonen Jukka <<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi">jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
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Without a mapfile and data and configurations which could be used for re-producing your issue it is hard to guess what happens. Some suggestions:<br>
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Make two QGIS WMS connections to your MapServer, one for both versions. If the result is good, then Mapserver is good. If the result is bad, you can capture the GetMap requests from the QGIS log window.<br>
If Mapserver is good but Mapserver+Mapcache not, log the GetMap requests that Mapcache is sending.<br>
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The vendor option "map_resolution" <a href="https://mapserver.org/ogc/wms_server.html#vendor-specific-wms-parameters" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mapserver.org/ogc/wms_server.html#vendor-specific-wms-parameters</a> does have on effect on the size of the labels, but it is not used in your example GetMaps.<br>
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-Jukka Rahkonen-<br>
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Aihe: Re: [MapServer-users] WMS with a GPKG-based layer : different responses, dependending on version (1.1.1 vs 1.3.0)<br>
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Hi Tanya,I wouldn't say Mapserver has limited support for WMS V1.3.0. I would rather bet for some parameters I have not set.PhilippeP.S. : you should answer to "all" so that the whole list can benefit from the discussion, and the possible solution.On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 9:45 AM TC Haddad <<a href="mailto:tchaddad@gmail.com" target="_blank">tchaddad@gmail.com</a>> wrote:Understood and makes sense.I note that the MapCache documentation says there is limited support for WMS 1.3.0, so perhaps you should try sending the 1.3.0 request directly to MapServer as a test to confirm that the problem is coming from MapCache…TanyaOn Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 12:41 AM Philippe Ghesquiere <<a href="mailto:philippe.ghesquiere@airbus.com" target="_blank">philippe.ghesquiere@airbus.com</a>> wrote:Dear Tanya,I agree with you. I have no problems with WMTS requests, since they explicitly specify the expected zoom level.However, our server has to expose WMS services, and I do not know which WMS version our potential clients will request.Thus, our server parameters need to be adapted in order to serve images with correct content, whatever the version.SincerelyPhilippeOn Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 9:11 AM TC Haddad <<a href="mailto:tchaddad@gmail.com" target="_blank">tchaddad@gmail.com</a>> wrote:Hi Philippe,Apologies if I misunderstood, but If your GPKG contains tiles and you are using Mapcache, then you could try using WMTS to request the tiles. That way you should get them as rendered (instead of re-rendered for single-image returned from WMS).TanyaOn Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 11:48 PM Philippe Ghesquiere via MapServer-users <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:Hi Jukka,The <a href="https://pasteboard.co" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pasteboard.co</a> server was down yesterday. It's up again this morning :-)You can see the "WMS V1.3.0" is not readable.I also noticed there was no problem with <a href="http://demo.mapserver.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">demo.mapserver.org</a> WMS examples. I believe these links are "vector based", just like this one :<a href="https://demo.mapserver.org/cgi-bin/umn?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=44.97440639080338087,-93.19614722958594655,44.9933979530691488,-93.16564743649665559&CRS=EPSG:4326&WIDTH=1023&HEIGHT=637&LAYERS=osm-mn&STYLES=&FORMAT=image/png&DPI=96&MAP_RESOLUTION=96&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi:96&TRANSPARENT=TRUEI" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://demo.mapserver.org/cgi-bin/umn?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=44.97440639080338087,-93.19614722958594655,44.9933979530691488,-93.16564743649665559&CRS=EPSG:4326&WIDTH=1023&HEIGHT=637&LAYERS=osm-mn&STYLES=&FORMAT=image/png&DPI=96&MAP_RESOLUTION=96&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi:96&TRANSPARENT=TRUEI</a> really wonder what parameters (or lack of) may change responses between WMS responses.SincerelyPhilippeOn Wed, Feb 18, 2026 at 2:30 PM Rahkonen Jukka <<a href="mailto:jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi" target="_blank">jukka.rahkonen@maanmittauslaitos.fi</a>> wrote:Hi,I could not access your sample images. I do not know if <a href="http://demo.mapserver.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">demo.mapserver.org</a> is GPKG based, but I do not see any difference between these two outputs:<a href="https://demo.mapserver.org/cgi-bin/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=4.735,33.118,8.641,38.769&SRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=490&HEIGHT=709&LAYERS=cities&STYLES=&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&DPI=144&MAP_RESOLUTION=144&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi%3A144&TRANSPARENT=TRUEhttps://demo.mapserver.org/cgi-bin/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=33.118,4.735,38.769,8.641&CRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=490&HEIGHT=709&LAYERS=cities&STYLES=&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&DPI=144&MAP_RESOLUTION=144&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi%3A144&TRANSPARENT=TRUE-Jukka" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://demo.mapserver.org/cgi-bin/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.1.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=4.735,33.118,8.641,38.769&SRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=490&HEIGHT=709&LAYERS=cities&STYLES=&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&DPI=144&MAP_RESOLUTION=144&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi%3A144&TRANSPARENT=TRUEhttps://demo.mapserver.org/cgi-bin/wms?SERVICE=WMS&VERSION=1.3.0&REQUEST=GetMap&BBOX=33.118,4.735,38.769,8.641&CRS=EPSG%3A4326&WIDTH=490&HEIGHT=709&LAYERS=cities&STYLES=&FORMAT=image%2Fpng&DPI=144&MAP_RESOLUTION=144&FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi%3A144&TRANSPARENT=TRUE-Jukka</a> Rahkonen-________________________________________Lähettäjä: MapServer-users <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mapserver-users-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> käyttäjän Philippe Ghesquiere via MapServer-users <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>> puolestaLähetetty: Keskiviikko 18. helmikuuta 2026 11.37Vastaanottaja: MapServer Users <<a href="mailto:mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">mapserver-users@lists.osgeo.org</a>>Aihe: [MapServer-users] WMS with a GPKG-based layer : different responses, dependending on version (1.1.1 vs 1.3.0)Hi all,1) Problem description:Our system is offering an OSM layer, based on a WGS84 GPKG (Z=0 to Z=13).I sent two WMS requests, where the only difference is the standard version :WMS V1.1.1 request:<a href="https://xxx/layers/baselayers/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.1&request=GetMap&Layers=osm_4326&Styles=&SRS=EPSG:4326&Format=image/png&BBOX=45,22.5,67.5,45&Width=1024&Height=1024WMS" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://xxx/layers/baselayers/wms?service=WMS&version=1.1.1&request=GetMap&Layers=osm_4326&Styles=&SRS=EPSG:4326&Format=image/png&BBOX=45,22.5,67.5,45&Width=1024&Height=1024WMS</a> V1.3.0 request:<a href="https://xxx/layers/baselayers/wms?service=WMS&version=1.3.0&request=GetMap&Layers=osm_4326&Styles=&CRS=EPSG:4326&Format=image/png&BBOX=22.5,45,45,67.5&Width=1024&Height=1024" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://xxx/layers/baselayers/wms?service=WMS&version=1.3.0&request=GetMap&Layers=osm_4326&Styles=&CRS=EPSG:4326&Format=image/png&BBOX=22.5,45,45,67.5&Width=1024&Height=1024</a> I observe some differences :V1.1.1: <a href="https://pasteboard.co/JjKbU4yvSxrM.png,Labels" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pasteboard.co/JjKbU4yvSxrM.png,Labels</a> are easy to read: mapcache/mapserver is selecting the right zoom level in the GPKG file.V1.3.0: <a href="https://pasteboard.co/XzpHSJjSTiQV.png.Labels" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pasteboard.co/XzpHSJjSTiQV.png.Labels</a> are much too small and not readable. It seems that mapcache/mapserver is selecting a higher zoom level than expected and down-sample the image.I do not understand why the rendering is not the same.As far as I know, WMS requests do not have standard parameters which give a *direct* access to zoom layer, resolution or DPI.I tried to add some parameters to my request, with no impact on the response: DPI=240MAP_RESOLUTION=240FORMAT_OPTIONS=dpi:240.I also tried to add parameters in the "MAP block":RESOLUTIONDEFRESOLUTION2) Software environment:Mapserver 8.2.0Mapcache 1.14.0Gdal V3.8.4Alma Linux V83) Map file excerptMAP NAME "baselayers_wms" STATUS ON SIZE 256 256 EXTENT -180.0 -90.0 180.0 90.0 UNITS dd# DEFRESOLUTION 200# RESOLUTION 144 PROJECTION "init=epsg:4326" END4) My questions:Why do I get different responses between V1.1.1 and V1.3.0 WMS requests ?Are there any configuration parameters which have default values in one version and not in the other ?I would be glad to have some hints to get better WMS 1.3.0 responsesSincerelyPhilippeThe information in this e-mail is confidential. 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