[Marketing] Re: [Live-demo] Re: What is OSGeoLive's relationship with OSGeo?

Tue Aug 31 22:15:40 EDT 2010

I've always saw it as just a committee run project, similar to the Journal, 
Edu committee and the geodata group.  I think there is limited benefit to 
incubation or even labs.  If it's simply a committee run project then no big 
deal.  But if it's not under OSGeo's umbrella at all, then we can restart the 
discussions about branding it with an OSGeo based logo ;-)

On August 31, 2010 05:58:19 pm Jody Garnett wrote:
> I was hoping the project would enter OSGeo Labs and or incubation
> process; but perhaps that is just me.
> 
> The foundation and the osgeolive project have similar goals (promotion
> of open source spatial) but different means (packaging and
> distribution vs sheltering foundation).
> 
> Jody
> 
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Astrid Emde <astrid_emde at osgeo.org> wrote:
> > Hello Cameron,
> > 
> > you discussed this also on the marketing list. Tyler made a suggestion
> > for the documentation. You find it in the following mail:
> > 
> > http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-August/002496.html
> > 
> > I would highly prefer the text of Tyler.
> > 
> > I personaly was not aware that the OSGeoLiveDVD doesn't represent the
> > OSGeo Foundation and is a separate project. For me OSGeoLiveDVD is OSGeo
> > and more. Maybe we can get OSGeo and OSGeoLive more connected in future
> > as for me the separation does not make sense.
> > 
> > Astrid
> > 
> > On Mon, August 30, 2010 11:22 pm, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >> Tyler highlights the issue that our OSGeoLive web pages don't clearly
> >> distinguish between OSGeoLive and the OSGeo Foundation.
> >> 
> >> This is probably partly due to the fact that I don't think we have
> >> clearly defined the relationship ourselves.
> >> 
> >> Should we include something like the following in our documentation:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> "While OSGeoLive shares the same ideals, is run by the same volunteer,s
> >> and creates marketing material on behalf, of the OSGeo Foundation, it is
> >> a separate project and doesn't represent the OSGeo Foundation."
> >> 
> >> On 31/08/10 04:58, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
> >>> On 10-08-29 8:41 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>> Tyler,
> >>>> Someone has brought it to my attention that the OSGeoLive project [1]
> >>>> is breaking OSGeo Acceptable Logo Usage requirements [2] by modifying
> >>>> the logo (with a blue heart, and words "Live").
> >>>> 
> >>>> I remember seeing similar discussion of modified use of the logo for
> >>>> local chapters, and for a consensus that it should be encouraged, but
> >>>> it seems this feeling has not made it into official documentation.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Can you please confirm that it is ok us to use the OSGeoLive logo as
> >>>> per [1]. Could you please let us know whether there is any process in
> >>>> place to update [2].
> >>>> 
> >>>> [1] http://live.osgeo.org/
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> [2]
> >>>> http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/export/2914/marketing/guidelines/v2/brandi
> >>>> ng_guide.pdf
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks for mentioning it Cameron.  The main thing we are trying to
> >>> avoid is brand confusion.  For example, if a local chapter remixes the
> >>> OSGeo logo in some way, it needs to be clear that they are not "OSGeo"
> >>> proper nor representing OSGeo officially in some way.
> >>> 
> >>> Likewise with the Live project.  It hasn't modified the logo any more
> >>> than local chapters have, but it could be a bit clearer how the project
> >>> relates back to OSGeo.  Obviously if it's got an osgeo.org address, it
> >>> ties back directly, but I'm thinking about those people who will be
> >>> introduced to "OSGeo Live" without going through any OSGeo related
> >>> website.  A note on the Live website about how it relates to the OSGeo
> >>> organisation and software would be valuable for several reasons, but in
> >>> this context it's important so people see can understand the difference
> >>> between "OSGeo" and "OSGeo Live".  Hope that makes some sense.
> >>> 
> >>> Yes we need to have a Marketing sprint to tidy up some of the docs on
> >>> this stuff.
> >>> 
> >>> Tyler
> >> 
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