[Marketing] Marketing Digest, Vol 56, Issue 4
Jeroen Ticheler
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Sat Jun 9 00:46:32 PDT 2012
Apologies I was unable to attend the meeting.
-0 from me.
I've read the logs and am not convinced this change makes sense. As Danniel noted the term advocate doesn't really provide the prestige we're looking for, we are all advocates.
My impression of the discussion on IRC is that the email exchanges have been largely ignored and have not been part of the meeting discussion. I think it needs more thought before we decide on the name.
Cheers,
Jeroen
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Op 8 jun. 2012 om 21:48 heeft Daniele <daniele.ocu at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> +1 to the new name
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64.
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> On Jun 8, 2012, at 16:00, marketing-request at lists.osgeo.org wrote:
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>> 1. Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Marketing meeting to finalise definition
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>> 2. Re: Marketing meeting to finalise definition of an OSGeo
>> Ambassador role (Daniel Morissette)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 09:32:43 +0200
>> From: Free <yjacolin at free.fr>
>> To: discuss at lists.osgeo.org
>> Cc: OSGeo Marketing <marketing at lists.osgeo.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Marketing] [OSGeo-Discuss] Marketing meeting to finalise
>> definition of an OSGeo Ambassador role
>> Message-ID: <1844940.VY2a14Qq24 at tatras>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I agree with this new name, look much better.
>>
>> Y.
>> Le jeudi 7 juin 2012 19:00:34 nicolas bozon a ?crit :
>>> +1 Nick
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/6/7 Jo Cook <jocook at astuntechnology.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I couldn't make the meeting- I'm happy with the change of name, so
>>>> +1 from Jo on OSGeo Advocate as a name for this new role
>>>>
>>>> Jo
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Cameron Shorter <
>>>>
>>>> cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Minutes of this meeting are here:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Meeting_2012-06-04#Minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Consensus was that the role should be created as outlined [1], with a
>>>>> change of title from "OSGeo Ambassador" to "OSGeo Advocate", as
>>>>> "Ambassador" implies that the OSGeo board has assigned the role to
>>>>> someone
>>>>> after a selection process (which is not the case for this volunteer
>>>>> role).
>>>>>
>>>>> Voting will remain open for the next 48 hours if people who couldn't make
>>>>> the meeting wish to vote.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 Cameron Shorter to accept the "OSGeo Advocate" role.
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Ambassador
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/05/2012 6:59 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I've set up a meeting next week to discuss then finalise the setting of
>>>>> an OSGeo Ambassador role. Hope to see many of you at the meeting, or if
>>>>> you
>>>>> can't make it, please share your thoughts (and vote?) on email before
>>>>> hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Location: irc://irc.freenode.net/#osgeo
>>>>> Time:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month
>>>>> =6&day=4&hour=20&min=30&sec=0&p1=264&p2=240&p3=215&p4=179&p5=224>>
>>>>> Location Local time
>>>>>
>>>>> Wellington <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=264> (New
>>>>>
>>>>> Zealand) Tuesday, 5 June 2012 at 8:30:00 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Sydney <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=240>
>>>>> (Australia
>>>>>
>>>>> - New South Wales) Tuesday, 5 June 2012 at 6:30:00 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Rome <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=215> (Italy)
>>>>> Monday,>>
>>>>> 4 June 2012 at 10:30:00 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> New York <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179>
>>>>> (U.S.A.
>>>>>
>>>>> - New York) Monday, 4 June 2012 at 4:30:00 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> San Francisco <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224>
>>>>> (U.S.A.>>
>>>>> - California) Monday, 4 June 2012 at 1:30:00 PM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The current proposal is here:
>>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Ambassador
>>>>>
>>>>> This topic has been discussed by many of you on discuss, marketing and
>>>>> board email lists. Here is a summary of comments, along with my
>>>>> suggestions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. There has emerged to be two roles which people have been categorising
>>>>> under the title of "OSGeo Ambassador"
>>>>> a. Someone knowledgeable in OSGeo, who can speak at conferences and the
>>>>> like. This is what we are focusing on for this definition of the role.
>>>>> b. Someone who can negotiate MOU and similar on behalf of the OSGeo
>>>>> board. This is proposed to be treated separately, with the OSGeo Board
>>>>> delegated to someone they see fit to do the job, on a case-by-case basis.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. There has been concern (from FrankW?) about defining a role which is
>>>>> exclusive and prevents people from just stepping up an volunteering. This
>>>>> is addressed by letting anyone who believes they have OSGeo experience
>>>>> and
>>>>> thinks them self worthy can step forward and volunteer.
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. There has been concern (from Arnulf?) that our categorisation is too
>>>>> complicated. (We are proposing Board Members, Charter Members, Voted
>>>>> Positions, Community Members). I believe that we do need some way to
>>>>> define
>>>>> OSGeo experience, because that is one of the key criteria that conference
>>>>> organisors look for when selecting speakers and key notes. We can
>>>>> potentially de-emphasise the categorisation by moving it into the
>>>>> "Description" field rather than making a heading out of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
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>>>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:44:49 -0400
>> From: Daniel Morissette <dmorissette at mapgears.com>
>> To: marketing at lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [Marketing] Marketing meeting to finalise definition of
>> an OSGeo Ambassador role
>> Message-ID: <4FD1F3C1.6000501 at mapgears.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> +1 from an observer (and thanks for the name change)
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> On 12-06-07 7:53 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>> Minutes of this meeting are here:
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Meeting_2012-06-04#Minutes
>>>
>>> Consensus was that the role should be created as outlined [1], with a
>>> change of title from "OSGeo Ambassador" to "OSGeo Advocate", as
>>> "Ambassador" implies that the OSGeo board has assigned the role to
>>> someone after a selection process (which is not the case for this
>>> volunteer role).
>>>
>>> Voting will remain open for the next 48 hours if people who couldn't
>>> make the meeting wish to vote.
>>>
>>> +1 Cameron Shorter to accept the "OSGeo Advocate" role.
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Ambassador
>>>
>>> On 30/05/2012 6:59 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>> I've set up a meeting next week to discuss then finalise the setting
>>>> of an OSGeo Ambassador role. Hope to see many of you at the meeting,
>>>> or if you can't make it, please share your thoughts (and vote?) on
>>>> email before hand.
>>>>
>>>> Location: irc://irc.freenode.net/#osgeo
>>>> Time:
>>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month=6&day=4&hour=20&min=30&sec=0&p1=264&p2=240&p3=215&p4=179&p5=224
>>>>
>>>> Location Local time
>>>>
>>>> Wellington <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=264>
>>>> (New Zealand) Tuesday, 5 June 2012 at 8:30:00 AM
>>>>
>>>> Sydney <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=240>
>>>> (Australia - New South Wales) Tuesday, 5 June 2012 at 6:30:00 AM
>>>>
>>>> Rome <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=215> (Italy)
>>>> Monday, 4 June 2012 at 10:30:00 PM
>>>>
>>>> New York <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=179>
>>>> (U.S.A. - New York) Monday, 4 June 2012 at 4:30:00 PM
>>>>
>>>> San Francisco <http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=224>
>>>> (U.S.A. - California) Monday, 4 June 2012 at 1:30:00 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The current proposal is here:
>>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Ambassador
>>>>
>>>> This topic has been discussed by many of you on discuss, marketing and
>>>> board email lists. Here is a summary of comments, along with my
>>>> suggestions:
>>>>
>>>> 1. There has emerged to be two roles which people have been
>>>> categorising under the title of "OSGeo Ambassador"
>>>> a. Someone knowledgeable in OSGeo, who can speak at conferences and
>>>> the like. This is what we are focusing on for this definition of the role.
>>>> b. Someone who can negotiate MOU and similar on behalf of the OSGeo
>>>> board. This is proposed to be treated separately, with the OSGeo Board
>>>> delegated to someone they see fit to do the job, on a case-by-case basis.
>>>>
>>>> 2. There has been concern (from FrankW?) about defining a role which
>>>> is exclusive and prevents people from just stepping up an
>>>> volunteering. This is addressed by letting anyone who believes they
>>>> have OSGeo experience and thinks them self worthy can step forward and
>>>> volunteer.
>>>>
>>>> 3. There has been concern (from Arnulf?) that our categorisation is
>>>> too complicated. (We are proposing Board Members, Charter Members,
>>>> Voted Positions, Community Members). I believe that we do need some
>>>> way to define OSGeo experience, because that is one of the key
>>>> criteria that conference organisors look for when selecting speakers
>>>> and key notes. We can potentially de-emphasise the categorisation by
>>>> moving it into the "Description" field rather than making a heading
>>>> out of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cameron Shorter
>>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>>
>>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cameron Shorter
>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>
>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>> Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
>>> http://www.lisasoft.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Marketing at lists.osgeo.org
>>> http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
>>
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Morissette
>> http://www.mapgears.com/
>> Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000
>>
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