[Marketing] [OSGeo-Discuss] Gentle reminder reg: Project selection on the new website draft

Wed Aug 16 16:55:43 PDT 2017

Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly ... and there is
still an open discussion about which badge to use for projects in
incubation.

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius at gmail.com> wrote:
> Bingo. 1) is fixed. http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ ...
> Hopefully they can add the default filter tomorrow.
>
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:51 AM, Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just got off the phone with the vendor. They are going to do 2 things ASAP.
>>
>> 1) Add the badge. Its actually there, but is not showing for some reason.
>> 2) Add a filter in the megamenu for the type of project, and have the
>> OSGeo filter checked initially so ONLY OSGeo projects are showing for
>> now.
>>
>> From here we can discuss the path forward.
>>
>> I encourage all of you to try the "Choose a Project" wizard ... with
>> the understanding that its not all working yet ... but we *really*
>> want to get this part right and funnel people new to OSGeo right at
>> this Wizard to help them find what they need.
>>
>> Feel free to file new issues in GitHub. Angelos will take care of
>> filing one about how to sort appropriately.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:00 AM, Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure at all, but it was a suggestion.
>>>
>>> Can someone open a ticket on the github so we can have a discussion there.
>>>
>>> There are 2 issues.
>>>
>>> 1) We need to be able to identify which are OSGeo incubated projects
>>> vs others. This is a technical issue that will get solved quickly (see
>>> my previous mail with links)
>>> 2) We need a way to sort/order/rank projects when many are displayed.
>>> This is a philosophical decision we will have to make as a group and
>>> then implement technically.
>>>
>>> I have no pre-conceptions as to what we should do for 2), but I would
>>> like us to do it with as big of a pool of projects as possible. It
>>> makes sense to me to carefully go through ALL the workshops and
>>> presentations from FOSS4G and make sure *every* project represented in
>>> this set has a corresponding presence on the site. This is what I mean
>>> by Big Tent thinking.
>>>
>>> Happy to be having this discussion ... it means no-one is so bothered
>>> by the stretched logos etc ... and assume that will get fixed :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:52 AM, María Arias de Reyna
>>> <delawen+osgeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Are you sure ordering by rank is a good idea (whatever the rank is)?
>>>> That leaves small projects behind...
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 3:51 PM, Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I should also point out that it has been suggested that we have a way
>>>>> to 'rank' projects in these pages somehow that indicates their
>>>>> popularity ... for instance when we have a page of all OSGeo projects
>>>>> like the one linked below. Perhaps we can use the number of GitHub
>>>>> stars or some objective metric to accomplish this?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/choose-a-project/mapping-and-cartography/desktop-mapping/
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we have alot of work to do to make the "Choose a Project" wizard
>>>>> work properly, but its one part of the site that is *very* important
>>>>> to us. Please keep an eye on this section and we encourage feedback
>>>>> ... but understand its not working to our satisfaction yet either.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:47 AM, Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Moritz Lennert
>>>>>> <mlennert at club.worldonline.be> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 16/08/17 15:29, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that several of these issues are on the list to be discussed with
>>>>>>>> the vendor today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is also the issue of actual OSGeo projects that simply havent
>>>>>>>> responded to various requests for input. I've had to just add them in
>>>>>>>> myself so they are there and can be hooked up to the choose a project
>>>>>>>> wizard. What do we do about projects that have simply atrophied, but
>>>>>>>> are still considered OSGeo projects?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I *really* want us to adopt the mantra of "Bigger tent, more
>>>>>>>> people/groups/projects under it" ... Small tent thinking wont get us
>>>>>>>> very far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not sure that I've read a lot of small tent thinking. Most comments were
>>>>>>> about priorities in the way projects are displayed on the OSGeo website, not
>>>>>>> about excluding non-OSGeo (understood here as projects that have not
>>>>>>> undergone a formal process to be labeled) projects from the website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree that the current website does not correspond to what I would expect.
>>>>>>> I also am guilty of not having reacted earlier (although you have to admit
>>>>>>> that the actual form of the website with actual project descriptions has
>>>>>>> only been available to us in the last days). I personally would also plead
>>>>>>> for highlighting OSGeo projects more than what the current form does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, this is the very first item on the list for our meeting in 15
>>>>>> minutes with the vendor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One technical thing to note. For some reason the 'cards' on the
>>>>>> homepage do NOT yet show the badge for the type of project, but the
>>>>>> final pages of the Choose a project Wizard do. Check these 2 pages to
>>>>>> see what I mean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/
>>>>>> http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/choose-a-project/publish/content-management/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the latter has the badge in the upper right corner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will get these badges on the main projects pages ASAP today and
>>>>>> that should help further the conversation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This does not diminish in any way my profound respect and awe in front of
>>>>>>> what the team has been able to pull off. I think the reactions on the list
>>>>>>> just show how important this work is for everyone !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moritz
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