[MetaCRS] 'FOSS Maintained' Source of CRS Definitions
Dean C.Mikkelsen
dcmikkelsen at terraetl.com
Mon May 12 18:34:19 EDT 2008
A brief history of the EPSG can be found here:
http://www.energistics.org/posc/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=242&SnID=2
Cheers,
Dean
On Mon, 12 May 2008 16:31:35 -0500
Howard Butler <hobu.inc at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On May 12, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Norm Olsen wrote:
>>
>> OPERATIONAL APPLICATION
>>
>> Establishing an operational site sounds like a nightmare
>>for a
>> volunteer based organization. OGP/EPSG has established
>>a web based
>> site from which a web client can obtain EPSG definitions
>>in GML
>> form. EPSG does not support all the definitions we
>>would like. So
>> I think the appropriate course of action is to establish
>>a working
>> relationship with EPSG and use what they have
>>established and work
>> to get the definitions we require added to the database.
>>
>> There may be fees involved in using this service, but
>>funds to
>> operate need to come from someplace. :>)
>>
>
> At the time we rolled out http://spatialreference.org,
>the EPSG registry was just coming into existence (I
>don't know who preceded who, but EPSG's idea for the
>site must have existed for much longer than the two days
>in which we conceived and implemented sr.org ;). The
>EPSG registry website (http://www.epsg-registry.org) is
>atrocious to use, especially from a hands-off, developer
>perspective. One thing we wanted sr.org to excel at was
>to allow softwares that can speak HTTP to easily be able
>to fetch (and create new) coordinate reference systems.
> In that sense, I think sr.org has been a successful
> demonstration as shown by proj4js' and GDAL's ability to
>consume sr.org URLs and dereference them into something
>they can interpret. If we were to take on building
>something (as http://spatialreference.org or otherwise),
>I think that property of sr.org is an important one to
> keep.
>
> I'll confess to being quite naive when it comes to
>coordinate reference system description, and I will
>gladly leave the details to the experts like yourself
>who work with this stuff all day everyday. On the other
>hand, I'm skeptical that coming up with a uber-
>encompassing dictionary of descriptions is a project that
>has a high probability of success. A question I ask
>myself is if this problem is solvable, why hasn't it
>been solved yet? Is it merely a communication problem,
>where getting all of the right people in a room can solve
> it? Is it a complexity issue, where all of the
>permutations of how people/software can do things make
>capturing all of it a monumental task? Is it a
>political issue, where organizations like EPSG who act
> as authorities move too slow to update their registry?
> Does *THE STANDARD* already solve it and it is just
>generally not in wide enough use yet?
>
> Is the juicy, solvable problem for MetaCRS the common
>description of coordinate reference systems (and all of
>the details that you've described), or is it software(s)
>that can speak all of the coordinate reference system
>description languages that are out there (31 flavors of
>WKT, proj, EPSG codes, etc) and act as a Babel Fish? Or,
>to be successful, do we really have to tackle both?
>
>> OK, you can wake up now. I'm done.
>
> Thanks for the excellent treatise of where things are
>currently. Sorry that I just have more meandering
>questions to ask...
>
> Howard
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Dean C. Mikkelsen, B.Sc., P.Eng.
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