[Journal] Current interest level in OSGeo Journal?
Christian Willmes
c.willmes at uni-koeln.de
Tue Feb 13 09:09:24 PST 2024
+1 for letting Geo4All and Discuss know about this and maybe wait some
few days for any response/interest.
Best regards,
Christian
Am 13.02.24 um 16:50 schrieb Eli Adam via newsletter:
> Hi all,
>
> Some of the content can probably be found in SVN,
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal
> <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal> (although not all
> editions are well organized some follow the pattern of
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_12/master_pdf/Master.pdf
> <https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/journal/volume_12/master_pdf/Master.pdf>).
>
>
> Thanks for the ideas and offers of help (we'll probably need it
> especially from people more familiar with Zenodo). I think this is
> what we need to do to responsibly put the Journal into dormancy.
> Before we jump to that, do we want to shop for a new home and
> interest for the Journal? My ideas on that are to email the Discuss
> list and to try connecting in the GeoForAll effort. Are there any
> other ideas to continue the Journal that we should explore before
> putting into dormancy? I'm happy to send the Discuss email. Helena, I
> think that you (and maybe Markus and Barend) are somewhat involved in
> the GeoForAll effort. Could you see if there is interest there or
> find the appropriate person to check into that? The Journal could be
> reorganized within GeoForAll if there is interest.
>
> I'll send the Discuss email by the end of this week unless I hear
> otherwise.
>
> Best regards, Eli
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC) <b.j.kobben at utwente.nl>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:19 AM
> *To:* Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu>; Eli Adam
> <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us>
> *Cc:* Eli Adam via newsletter <newsletter at lists.osgeo.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Journal] Current interest level in OSGeo Journal?
>
> After a cursory look, I have to say I can do that only for the two
> issues I edited (13+14), for which I have my own backups. The other
> volumes on the Wiki and in the SVN are a total mess, of most I cannot
> find a final version at all, because in very many cases links are dead
> (eg this one http://www.osgeo.org/journal/volume2
> <http://www.osgeo.org/journal/volume2>) or point to a wrong place (eg
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/w/index.php?title=Journal_Volume_7&action=edit&redlink=1
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/w/index.php?title=Journal_Volume_7&action=edit&redlink=1>).
> And in some cases the only/actual content seems to be the Wiki and I
> have no time and knowledge on how to consolidate those into this
> Zenodo system...
>
> Sorry to be of little help...
>
> /-- /
>
> /Barend Köbben/
>
> On 13/02/2024, 00:43, "Helena Mitasova" <hmitaso at ncsu.edu> wrote:
>
> Barend, Eli,
>
> here is the suggestions from Peter - I do not have much experience
> with Zenodo although the GRASS team has worked on getting the project
> registered there.
>
> Barend, would you have time to upload the existing issues to Zenodo?
> If not perhaps send the link to Peter and ask him for help with it.
>
> thanks a lot, Helena
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Peter Löwe <peter.loewe at gmx.de <mailto:peter.loewe at gmx.de>>
>
> *Subject: Aw: Re: [Journal] Current interest level in OSGeo Journal?*
>
> *Date: *February 12, 2024 at 9:42:30 AM EST
>
> *To: * Helena Mitasova <hmitaso at ncsu.edu <mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
>
>
> Helena, Barend, Eli, all,
>
> I would propose to preserve all Journal-related ressources via
> the open access Zenodo repository (zenodo.org
> <http://zenodo.org/> -> no costs, professional long term
> preservation, an open source infrastructure backed by CERN), which
> is already being used for other OSGeo content, including software,
> data and publications (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/DOI
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/DOI>).
>
> While we don't have a common strategy within OSGeo (yet) to
> interlink such ressources, once they have received DOI (Digital
> Object Identifiers), they can be discovered, referenced and
> _interlinked_.
>
> We have already have that for OSGeo projects which actively use
> DOI for software versioning: It's feasible to reference
> either particular software releases or the whole software project.
> A reference to the project allows to discover all software
> releases, and vice verca.
>
> In a similar fashion, the OSGeo journal could be referenced by
> DOI, or alternatively individual Journal editions. DOI can be
> obtained via Zenodo, but also other institutions, like NASA, maybe
> AGU, etc..
>
> The most important thing would be to include the OSGeo ROR
> (persistent id from the research organisation registry, we have
> this since early 2023) in the metadata when registering a DOI via
> a repo:
>
> https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/EUZsd5Dmd8MxIDEjTunbqw3F7mPC1Fj-mjLEOvBRH~S2vJRBxKaAGMZZ3xjf3-Ew1RVoizYODbbxPsExkJijtep_jhPzdZjeAvZqnFHmQNNO6iUG3-FuQXtqU_YSuug_imWBsjQClUbtGHA_X48Kv2UW3al9Xv~ZttvCZSOXpVyi18T
> <https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/EUZsd5Dmd8MxIDEjTunbqw3F7mPC1Fj-mjLEOvBRH~S2vJRBxKaAGMZZ3xjf3-Ew1RVoizYODbbxPsExkJijtep_jhPzdZjeAvZqnFHmQNNO6iUG3-FuQXtqU_YSuug_imWBsjQClUbtGHA_X48Kv2UW3al9Xv~ZttvCZSOXpVyi18T>(https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/fI5AxbwmagdcSwdJ0BBQIeuYME6i32uTQieuOM3i1UsVBEwNyT566_ZXO8wyr4Q3MZy6NMH5ztNq~veMXqsCto0gY8autvJTra2m_3XmTrEY3KekJ_LXmww4bTkb4YUHK3BuZXagnTszLFwn1x_ipSgN3C1Wl-QmNXfq0vu0tiG2hHzzDq6xIc9rFLMUOa1c
> <https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/fI5AxbwmagdcSwdJ0BBQIeuYME6i32uTQieuOM3i1UsVBEwNyT566_ZXO8wyr4Q3MZy6NMH5ztNq~veMXqsCto0gY8autvJTra2m_3XmTrEY3KekJ_LXmww4bTkb4YUHK3BuZXagnTszLFwn1x_ipSgN3C1Wl-QmNXfq0vu0tiG2hHzzDq6xIc9rFLMUOa1c>)
>
> [The ROR ID can also be added to already existing OSGeo DOI]
>
> This allows in the long run to mine/discover all content preserved
> in open access repos for OSGeo related content (no matter what it
> is -> Journal editions, code, data, etc.)
>
>
> So once there will be renewed interest to reboot the Journal, all
> resources will be ready and usable.
> This is compatible with the OSGeo publication in the ISPRS
> Archives (e.g.
> https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/WNmsHkD4llS-jG-rQEhGqcKULrFbdVaSYeAke7uGpkFFWY-qWZmXWFmP8yJX1xt2sWDRnX8R_hDKYpDP1UUgsIVEf~vhloXtAJ~-V3vcj5G-rFGzboU3_HqbiKU-azNrWLB_3nnjplNjI9DcpFjcNEF~WuzLSHO3pakEQv6TkllKizD3sobSG6h6WUfA9tN2-KwYpH5ZrvrJOWBPF~6mBvh95tGPQKVopyjagMn
> <https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/WNmsHkD4llS-jG-rQEhGqcKULrFbdVaSYeAke7uGpkFFWY-qWZmXWFmP8yJX1xt2sWDRnX8R_hDKYpDP1UUgsIVEf~vhloXtAJ~-V3vcj5G-rFGzboU3_HqbiKU-azNrWLB_3nnjplNjI9DcpFjcNEF~WuzLSHO3pakEQv6TkllKizD3sobSG6h6WUfA9tN2-KwYpH5ZrvrJOWBPF~6mBvh95tGPQKVopyjagMn>),
> which also utilizes the DOI infrastructures.
>
> Best,
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> <peter.loewe at gmx.de <mailto:peter.loewe at gmx.de>>
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 11. Februar 2024 um 21:28 Uhr
> Von: "Helena Mitasova" <hmitaso at ncsu.edu <mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>>
> An: "Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC)" <b.j.kobben at utwente.nl
> <mailto:b.j.kobben at utwente.nl>>
> Cc: "Eli Adam" <eadam at co.lincoln.or.us
> <mailto:eadam at co.lincoln.or.us>>, "newsletter at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:newsletter at lists.osgeo.org>" <newsletter at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:newsletter at lists.osgeo.org>>, "Peter Löwe"
> <peter.loewe at gmx.de <mailto:peter.loewe at gmx.de>>
> Betreff: Re: [Journal] Current interest level in OSGeo Journal?
>
> Barend, thank you for answering the email from Eli, I agree that
> there seems to be no volunteers to pursue this effort, the
> conference papers were published through other means, mostly
> special issues of indexed journals,
> but it would be useful to give heads-up on OSGeo discuss that the
> mail list is going to be closed and the past issues will be
> archived - I cc-d Peter here maybe he has some suggestions
> on suitable repository.
>
> Helena
>
>
> Helena Mitasova
> Professor, Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
> Associate Director and Faculty Fellow, Center for Geospatial Analytics
> North Carolina State University
> Raleigh, NC 27695-8208
> hmitaso at ncsu.edu <mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>[mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu
> <mailto:hmitaso at ncsu.edu>]
>
>
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>
> On Feb 10, 2024, at 9:22 AM, Kobben, Barend (UT-ITC) via
> newsletter <newsletter at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:newsletter at lists.osgeo.org>[mailto:newsletter at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:newsletter at lists.osgeo.org>]> wrote:
>
> No love has indeed gone into that section for many, many years...
> I could not even find the two volumes I edited, no’s 13 and 14,
> which hold the papers of the academic tracks of FOSS4G 2013
> (Nottingham) and FOSS4G 2014 (Portland) , respectively...
>
> The LaTeX and PFF sources are on the SVN (osgeo.org [osgeo.org ]
> <https://us01.z.antigena.com/l/Jd0D87EQ88IKyfxyMWweIVdNeQF5BCa5dEk8ed9k9_wYOsz1~VVTKB4V7sf9SeTxSD76g~TWR5VK6~vAP2-HJf2sYdy8xmA2Y4BEZtUdCfUPGfvPUevp8hNQDBq4_MDbdhrEDmAXntL1ZquEV_y-YeqXIIPnG1UVAqWGTsZqRyYUQPX3HoTapfA3naf4-~MSwu6>)
> but are not linked anymore/where from the wiki....? I repaired
> that bit, but really have no time or interest for more. I suggest
> someone should at least archive the stuff that is there, maybe
> just a list of and PDFs of the issues that are present...?
>
> Yours,
>
>
> --
>
> Barend Köbben
> Senior Lecturer/Researcher – ITC-GIP
> Thesis Coordinator Joined Erasmus Mundus MSc in Cartography
> University Twente, PO Box 217, 7500 AE Enschede (The Netherlands)
> +31-(0)53 4874 253 / room 1-311 Langezijds (Hallenweg 8)
>
>
> On 09/02/2024, 23:01, "newsletter"
> <newsletter-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:newsletter-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>[mailto:newsletter-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:newsletter-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> The OSGeo Journal email list, the Journal itself, and associated
> websites have been dormant for years. Are there people interested
> in this project and effort?
>
>
>
> If there are people interested, then perhaps they can have more of
> a leadership role and re-invigorate the Journal.
>
>
>
> If there are not people interested, then perhaps we can ask on the
> Discuss list as well as connecting with the GeoForAll effort and
> see if there is a more appropriate home for the Journal somewhere
> there or related academic realms. I believe that there have been
> related successes in the past to publish OSGeo editions in other
> indexed journals.
>
>
>
> If there is no interest anywhere, then perhaps we should update
> our pages noting that things are dormant or closed, close the
> email list, and otherwise responsibly wind down the effort.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing thoughts and suggestions.
>
>
>
> Best regards, Eli_______________________________________________
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