[Oceania-Board] Microgrants and Good Mojo procedures and questions

[eli]

Thanks so much everybody, and Greg please keep raising these questions, I'm
learning a lot from them and I value your experienced opinion on OSGeo
procedures.

I totally agree, I should have asked for more detailed information  for the
grants that require money in advance, I'm sorry about that and I'll make
sure it won't happen again. I'm going to contact Lani and ask for a more
detailed quote, even if I will assure her that the grant is approved and
will specify with her what we require if they underspend (i.e. giving the
money in excess to a local charity chosen by us if under $200 AUD, sending
back the money to OSGeo if the money in excess are more than $200 AUD).
I've chosen the $200 AUD mark as it's roughly a fifth of the required
budget, but happy to hear your suggestions on this too.

Regarding the conflict of interest, in this case we had two members of the
group directly involved in the event (Carrol and Nemaia) and both
restrained from voting. As we still had 3 voting members and all 3 approved
the grant, it passed on as the majority of the group did vote yes. If we
didn't have the majority of the votes we would have asked the Board to
intervene and decide if approving or not the grant. I will make sure to
write down all of this in the procedures!

Cheers,
Elisa

Il giorno mar 2 nov 2021 alle ore 17:09 Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com>
ha scritto:

> Thanks for the civil discussion everyone. Great points all around and I
> think we're mostly aligned.
>
> *Fiji approval*
> If my approval is needed, I approve in this case to ensure Fiji can put
> together the breakfast/dinner next week. Elisa, can you give them written
> approval so they are confident the money will be there and they can put the
> event on?
>
> *My concerns*
>
>    1. The request for funds was a guesstimate. We need better than this
>    in future. We should have a venue and reference to prices that can be
>    compared to the cost per head estimate.
>    2. What happens if the dinner has half the number of attendees, gets
>    cancelled, or just doesn't cost as much as estimated? What happens to that
>    money? These are rather likely scenarios so I think we need a disclaimer
>    that outlines what happens in the result of underspending while also
>    stating that OSGeo Oceania is contributing the requested amount only in the
>    case of overspend.
>
> *Approvals going forward*
> I don't think I should be the one reviewing/approving. In future I would
> like to see the board set a budget for the Microgants Committee and let the
> committee operate that fund with the transparency Greg mentioned. I thought
> this was the financial process already, but I agree more info and access on
> Loomio is better so that the board can step in for fiduciary reasons.
> Hopefully rarely.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 2021 at 20:51, Greg Lauer <gregory.lauer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eli for the very comprehensive email outlining your thoughts. To
>> be transparent I questioned Eli on a transfer and this is were this email
>> derived from. The key issue was being asked to send $900 overseas to a
>> Western Union account with out any supporting documentation (who, what were
>> etc.). The issue was not about the committees decision to make and/or
>> authorize a grant.
>>
>> In answering Eli's questions:
>>
>> 1. I am in complete agreement that the board should not interfere on the
>> day to day running of committee(s). As per Ed's comments, in my mind it
>> more about transparency, and Board members have a fiduciary duty to manage
>> funds. With the Microgrant fund this was (initially) easily done by board
>> members having read only access to Loomino (not sure why this stopped) With
>> other grants there doesn't seem to be a transparent process to follow. I
>> should add, in my mind, the Board have the right to 'Audit' decisions at
>> any stage (although in reality this should be very rare).
>>
>> 2. Again to be clear the board should not be involved in the
>> decision making at a committee level. The only area that should have some
>> Board over-site is Conflict of Interest (and this been raised before) and
>> general understanding of processes. I my mind, again , this is about
>> transparency.
>>
>> 3. I will split this into two.
>>
>> In terms of "guarantee do we have that the money is spent on what it was
>> originally agreed to", with post payment this is reasonably easy to
>> manage. With pre-payment I think we need to set the expectations clearly
>> with the grantee, in writing (form letter) and acknowledged, of the
>> obligations.I am not so worried about Microgrants but but believe larger
>> grants require extra steps.
>>
>> In most cases we reimburse grantees based on pre-approved submission of
>> receipts or similar. This is a simple and very easy way to manage and very
>> transparent and ensured that the monies was spent as  There has been
>> (and will continue to be) cases were this is not practical and we will need
>> to send monies in advance. I am very confident this can be managed
>> transparently but in my mind requires a couple of extra steps (for example
>> a simple agreement signed by the grantee acknowledging the terms of
>> the grant etc).
>>
>> 4. I have answered above - there will always be cases to make money
>> available in advance, and we should support that, with appropriate
>> safeguards
>>
>> To be very clear this is not aimed at Eli or the grants team at all -
>> 110% supportive of the work they are doing. If anything this is a bit of a
>> swing back at the board (myself included) in that we need to provide better
>> support to the committees so they can spend money on these types of things
>> and have clear guidelines in place. It is not fair for Eli to have to try
>> and navigate this without board support.
>>
>> In terms of the outstanding grant to Suva we need to resolve this
>> reasonably quickly. If Eli and he team have approved this we need to make
>> it available. For me a very brief email with the grantee, purpose of
>> funds ('Lunch for Suva Hub'), some very basic accounting/proposed line
>> items  (30 x lunch @ $10 etc) would suffice. If it is a there is a
>> potential conflict of interest (i.e Board member, contractor, friend etc)
>> then a very short statement how this was mitigated.  Although I would feel
>> more conformable with a written acknowledgement from the grantee, I accept
>> that we are running out of time here.
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> On 2/11/2021 9:14:57 AM, Edoardo Neerhut <eneerhut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Elisa,
>>
>> Thanks for following up with a board email on this topic. Here are my 2
>> cents on each topic.
>>
>>    1. I agree with Elisa that the board should not weigh on each
>>    application. That shows a lack of trust in the committee and I don't want
>>    that to be the case. It'd be great if this information is available to the
>>    board for fiduciary reasons via Loomio or elsewhere, without the board
>>    needing to chime in.
>>    2. I don't have concerns with this currently, but the clearer we can
>>    make this each cycle, the better.
>>    3. For additional context, Greg raised a valid point about whether it
>>    is acceptable to send money without a clear idea of where it is going. We
>>    should focus on what the "clear idea" part here means and incorporate it
>>    into policies for both Good Mojo and Microgrants. Specific policy changes
>>    we could might make for funding in advance include:
>>       - A detailed quote from the good or service provider that(s) that
>>       breaks down the projected cost
>>       - A contingency plan if the quote diverges from actuals
>>       - Receipt to be provided within x number of days after the event
>>    4. Case by case. We know money in advance is particularly important
>>    for the Pacific. If we set a cap on advanced fundings, we're effectively
>>    discriminating on the funds they have access to. Instead we should have
>>    stricter controls on what a valid request is (see point 3 above).
>>
>> On currently pending applications, don't be afraid to ask for more
>> information to solidify the application. If we can do this quickly, we can
>> ensure everyone gets the money they need before the conference next week
>> (ahhh it's next week!!!).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 19:08, eli <elipuccioni at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> As we are in full swing with both microgrants and Good Mojo
>>> applications, I had a few important issues brought to my attention and I’d
>>> like to discuss them with all of you before carrying on with the grant
>>> group jobs.
>>>
>>> The main concerns are rotating around how we approve a microgrant and a
>>> GM request, the way we have decided to send funding (that’s especially for
>>> GM), and the way I have communicated them to the board. More specifically
>>> these questions have been raised:
>>>
>>> 1.      Original application - what is money being spent on? Can the
>>> board have access to the full application?
>>>
>>> 2.      How and why the application has been approved, and if there
>>> were any conflicts of interest, how they have been managed
>>>
>>> 3.      What guarantee do we have that the money is spent on what it
>>> was originally agreed to?
>>>
>>> 4.      Why does the money need to be paid in advance? (that’s
>>> referring to Good Mojo only). Should we fix a threshold of $500 to send
>>> money in advance or not?
>>>
>>> I haven’t yet consulted all the rest of the Grant group people about
>>> these issues, but I’m sure they will be happy to step in the conversation
>>> if needed. I’d like to write down my point of view about the questions
>>> raised, but I’m really happy to get all the feedback and advice possible,
>>> as I feel that can lead to a better and faster process to grant funding to
>>> the community.
>>>
>>> Regarding the first question: up to this moment the grant group
>>> discusses the applications via email and Loomio and I have only reported
>>> the results to the board during board meetings. I’m more than happy to open
>>> the Loomio discussion threads to all the board to read, but I might ask, if
>>> possible, not to intervene in the discussion directly and contact me for
>>> any issues, ideas or feedback. I feel if we need to wait for the input of
>>> other 6-7 people that could considerably delay the process. But happy to
>>> discuss it! Also, if any other person would love to join the grant group
>>> and be actively involved in the discussion and voting, you’re all welcome
>>> (board members and community members alike!). I will try to cut the
>>> communications via email about the applications and put everything on
>>> Loomio. Sometimes it has been faster just to forward the applications
>>> directly to the rest of the group instead of copying and pasting it to
>>> Loomio, especially for the four GM requests we’ve received, as they don’t
>>> have an application form but are sent directly to the grants email. But I
>>> have of course all the emails saved; in case the board wants to read them
>>> (respecting of course the privacy of the people involved).
>>>
>>> Regarding n.2. we do have a guideline here in the Microgrant document (
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QqVd5LT4l6cwr5WZXYV1AX8X09T48irv/edit)
>>> and we have followed it. It addresses both how to approve an application
>>> and what we do in case of conflict of interest. The GM funding purpose is
>>> explained, not yet completely, in this document (
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F0hgEyBPJ2EL0jZtqn0Av88Zmg6eTS7mUCEdEALujOg/edit#heading=h.95t0ev3wjads).
>>> We have not created yet a complete guideline for the GM as we’re still in
>>> the process to reorganise it to fit the new post covid reality and we’ve
>>> decided to adapt the microgrant process to fit the GM requests of this
>>> year. I expect it will be quite different from next year on (or at least I
>>> hope), maybe including more events/activities in its scope, but for 2021
>>> the GM funding is still closely linked to the conference and has been sent
>>> or will be sent to hub coordinators only. I do agree we should have written
>>> down a more comprehensive document and I apologise for that, but in all
>>> honesty, we haven’t had time. I will fill this gap asap after the
>>> conference, as I will need to organise another meeting with the rest of the
>>> group to put them down together and it’s not possible now. In order to
>>> build back the board's confidence in our process, I’ll happily explain all
>>> the steps we have taken to approve three out of four requests for this year.
>>>
>>> I think questions 3 and 4 are both referring to the Good Mojo requests,
>>> as it’s very rare that we send microgrants in advance (it has happened only
>>> once, I think, just at the beginning of the programme). I’d like to point
>>> out that for us the GM requests are different from the microgrants: they
>>> are used by the hub coordinators to deliver initiatives related to
>>> inclusion, diversity, and sustainability. The hubs are part of that,
>>> they're not outsiders asking for money to deliver their own programs.
>>> We of course request receipts to be sent after the event is completed and
>>> we have a small system in place in case not all the money is spent. In case
>>> just a small amount of money is left, we will ask the organiser to donate
>>> them to a local charity of our choosing, in case the amount is big, we will
>>> request a transfer back. I realise that this system is based on trust, and
>>> I appreciate that not all the board members will feel confident with it.
>>> We’ve put it in place especially for the GM applications made by the hub
>>> organisers, as they are active members of the community who we often know
>>> and have been working with. We feel they are entitled to be trusted, and
>>> maybe receiving the funding in advance can help them organise a better
>>> conference or reduce the stress. Of course, I think it’s important to
>>> discuss this part with the rest of the board in case you don’t share the
>>> same perspective.
>>>
>>> One last note on it, following the above principles we have already sent
>>> GM funding to Kiribati, but we’re holding the funding for Suva. Kiribati
>>> request was quite smaller than Suva, and below $500 AUD, so it has been
>>> suggested to put $500 as threshold on the amount of money to be sent in
>>> advance at this stage, till at least we have all the guidelines written and
>>> approved. I think that could be a good idea to discuss together, even if
>>> personally I’m not convinced that it’s completely fair. I think that if a
>>> GM application is solid and approved, it should get the funding in advance
>>> even if above the $500 AUD. The GM funding itself is rarely above the $1000
>>> mark anyway (well, at least it hasn’t been for this year!) and right now we
>>> only have 2 requests of funding in advance, one already paid. So I’d say
>>> let’s go ahead with Suva too, and then maybe change the procedure, if
>>> needed, from next round?
>>>
>>> Thanks all for reading this long email, I’m really looking forward to
>>> your feedback and suggestions!
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Elisa
>>>
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