[Oceania-Board] [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Emma Hain]

Hey All
Thanks for this. I get your sentiment John - I don't want to have that
'in-group relationships'. However I just want to uplift and showcase the
great things people are doing.
Does it happen anywhere else is FOSS4G?

On Fri, Mar 31, 2023 at 10:12 AM Adam Steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi John
>
> You've expressed my thoughts really well re. awards.
>
> Martin, I have many thoughts on volunteered/acquired/stolen geodata, for
> another chat. (Maybe we should get a microgrant and run a forum on the
> topic, if we run it in beechworth that'd be ace!)
>
> Alex, thanks for your action reaching out to Paul that's great!! Sooner
> the better - a public draft is a strong statement in itself ;).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Adam
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 15:16 John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Adam wrote:
>>>
>>> Awards - personally not my thing and (IMO) about the last thing a
>>> community org should focus on. I've just returned from a couple of
>>> years in Norway dealing with a community that is strongly cult of
>>> personality (rockstar/award/??) based, and it sucks. Where was the
>>> community discussion about awards in OSGeo Oceania?
>>>
>>
>> I feel similarly. I think it's nice to recognise people's successes and
>> wins, but industry body awards feel like an echo chamber to me, reinforcing
>> in-group relationships. I've always admired OSGeo for its focus on reaching
>> the broader community, creating an inviting and open space where anyone can
>> participate regardless of affiliations.
>>
>> The APSEA awards seem like particularly odd bedfellows for OSGeo
>> Oceania... despite the "Asia-Pacific" name, they're predominantly
>> (entirely?) Australian. Not making a criticism but it doesn't seem in step
>> with OSGeo Oceania's community.
>>
>> Ohyeah, an MoU *has to be* public and reviewable by the community.
>>> OSGeo's MoU with OGC is a good example of this practice.
>>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 08:14, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, sorry – you mean VGI? That was me the academic speaking -
>>> Volunteered Geographic Information, e.g., OSM, or any other geo content
>>> (e.g., Mapillary Cam data, or OpenDrone Map, or other) that is volunteered
>>> by people, as opposed to a “super” category - User Generated Content, which
>>> is any stuff that may be gathered from people out there, even unknowingly
>>> (some call this Coerced Geographic Content …)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed with your other points – and this makes it quite tricky to write
>>> a good MoU 😊, but there is hope,
>>>
>>> M.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Adam Steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Thursday, 30 March 2023 at 10:05 am
>>> *To: *Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
>>> *Cc: *OSGeo Oceania Board <oceania-board at lists.osgeo.org>, OSgeo -
>>> Oceania <oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Oceania-Board] [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of
>>> Australia - thoughts?
>>>
>>> Hi Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately unsurprising, I hope we can all work together to be better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Noncompetition for grants is a great addition to an MoU, alongside
>>> preventing channeling of OSGeo, OSM, HOT etc (global) funds to non-open
>>> activities. Leading naturally to the principle of open data from
>>> open-branded activity; and hackathons resulting in PRs to existing projects
>>> rather than fork -> rebrand -> claim.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What does "VGC" expand to?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adam
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