[OSGeo-Standards] Re: [Aust-NZ] ESRI/Google indexing spatial data.Where is OGC?

Tue May 27 20:11:28 PDT 2008

Carl,
Are you or your fellow OGC workers in a position to approach ESRI or 
Google and invite them to do their development in conjunction with the OGC?

A number of Australian agencies are focusing effort building robust 
SDIs, with a focus on Catalogs and Community Schemas in WFSs. I 
understand there is similar interest within INSPIRE in Europe. It would 
be opportune to align these existing efforts with this year's OGC testbed.

Carl Reed wrote:
> Bruce and others -
>  
> Being able to search the web for KML files is a good thing. However, 
> this capability is only one piece of the solution to solving the 
> discovery issues related to broader and more effective use of 
> geospatial content on the geoweb.
>  
> In addition to the issues that you and others have identified, I also 
> have a concern that there are multiple spatial indexing activities by 
> individuals, companies, and even by standards organizations that are 
> totally disjoint and not coordinated in any manner. Not the best way 
> to solve the web spatial indexing and searching problem! I would also 
> add that many of the suggested approaches do not provide consistent 
> guidance on how to store, maintain, or even search "rich" geospatial 
> metadata. Nor is imagery or sensor metadata really addressed.
>  
> Perhaps the role of the OGC is to provide the consensus environment to 
> truly discuss and address this topic.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Carl
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Bruce.Bannerman at dpi.vic.gov.au
>     <mailto:Bruce.Bannerman at dpi.vic.gov.au>
>     *To:* Cameron Shorter <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>     *Cc:* standards at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:standards at lists.osgeo.org>
>     ; aust-nz-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:aust-nz-bounces at lists.osgeo.org> ; shoaib
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>     *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2008 5:33 PM
>     *Subject:* [OSGeo-Standards] Re: [Aust-NZ] ESRI/Google indexing
>     spatial data.Where is OGC?
>
>
>     IMO:
>
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>     Cameron,
>
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>     I think that this is only a simplistic part of the 'search' debate.
>
>     It will certainly not replace the need for quality spatial
>     metadata or metadata catalogues.
>
>
>     When you look at the potential shown by OGC's OWS-5 work, I
>     suspect that the need for quality and definitive catalogues /
>     registries will increase (dramatically).
>
>     For further comments, see my response to Adena's post at:
>
>     http://apb.directionsmag.com/archives/4293-GoogleESRI-Announcement-in-Plain-English.html
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>     Bruce Bannerman
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>     *Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com
>     <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>>*
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>     27/05/2008 06:19 AM
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>     	standards at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:standards at lists.osgeo.org>,
>     Aust-NZ OSGeo <Aust-NZ at lists.osgeo.org>
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>     	Re: [Aust-NZ] ESRI/Google indexing spatial data. Where is OGC?
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>     OSGeo Standards,
>     From the Australian/New Zealand discussions about developing
>     Geonetwork
>     comes this announcement:
>
>     shoaib wrote:
>     > On the topic of Web2.0 at Where2.0 conference last week, ESRI and
>     > Google made a joint announcement stating a partnership to start
>     > indexing spatial data and spatial web services on Google search
>     > technology. The implications of this are huge from the
>     perspective of
>     > the industry as a whole. This opened a lot of questions about the
>     > place of OGC Catalogue Services.
>     >  
>     Does anyone know if ESRI/Google will be using Standards to achieve
>     their
>     indexing?
>     Ie, can Open Source packages like Geonetwork plug into this new work?
>     Should we  be worrying about vendor lock out?
>
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>     -- 
>     Cameron Shorter
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