[Aust-NZ] RE: Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 36, Issue 8

John Forne jforne at linz.govt.nz
Tue Aug 31 16:34:19 PDT 2010


Hi all
An open question please... I'm interested in finding out more about what progress has been made getting the NZ Topo series into OSM and what plans there are for the future - who should I contact?

Reuben Williams put together the NZ Topo series in http://www.nztopomaps.com see attached email. We've published a "guest blog" by Reuben on http://www.geospatial.govt.nz/nztopomaps-com-improving-access-to-nz-topo-series/.

I'd love to also promote what is being done with OSM. In particular, I'd love to post another "guest blog" that addresses questions for the reader, including:

 *   what have you done (if possible include a URL link)?
 *   how does OSM relate/compare to other initiatives, such as www.nztopomaps.com<http://www.nztopomaps.com>?
 *   what's been challenging/successful?
 *   who's funding/resourcing this project?
 *   how does this work relate to the Geospatial Strategy?
 *   next steps?
 *   who's involved?
 *   who would you like to work with/what are some things that other agencies could do to improve the service on offer to users?
 *   who can I contact to find out more?

If there's anything else you'd like to add feel free to offer this as well.

Many thanks!

John

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS Services
      (Noli Sicad)
   2. RE: Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS       Services
      [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] (Simon.Pigot at csiro.au)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:42:51 +1000
From: Noli Sicad <nsicad at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS
        Services
To: Hamish <hamish_b at yahoo.com>
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Hi Hamish,

> the Geosciences Australia OGC Web Map server might be of
> interest:
>
> http://www.ga.gov.au/wms/getmap?dataset=national&request=getCapabiliti
> es

> ? (I don't know much more about it beyond the url)

It seems to be working. I just tested it using 3G mobile vodafone connection :-).  Just see the layers.

>> Any plans in pipeline for Australia and New Zealand WMS and WFS
>> services?
>
> the NZopenGPS is currently working at getting the full LINZ topo
> dataset into OpenStreetMaps. (So far only the Chatham Islands trial is
> 98% complete) Once that is done I'd like to look at setting it up as a
> Free WMS(Mapnik or Osmarender styles)/WFS as exists for some parts of
> Europe.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LINZ

Cadastral boundary imports is I think very useful for general public (e.g. agriculture, forestry, real estate developers, etc.)

> I believe that for NZ the server loads will probably be low enough to
> be manageable. Due to expensive bandwidth it would probably have to be
> limited to NZ only.

Is the server cost or end user cost (download) in using the service?
If it is server cost, then probably host it somewhere cheaper.

> (yes, LINZ->postgis->osm->postgis->wms is a long chain, but hopefully
> not too lossy)

OSM good data provider but just limited to roads, coastlines, POI.
Cadastral boundary would be good addition in the case OSM-NZ.

Thanks.

Noli


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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:17:57 +1000
From: <Simon.Pigot at csiro.au>
Subject: RE: [Aust-NZ] Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS
        Services [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
To: <Ben.Searle at osdm.gov.au>, <B.Bannerman at bom.gov.au>,
        <jody.garnett at gmail.com>, <nsicad at gmail.com>
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Hi Ben, Bruce et al,

For sure GeoNetwork supports ISO19119 services metadata. It also supports auto harvesting and building a service metadata record (and 19115 metadata records about any layers available from these services) from an OGC GetCapabilities URL for a variety of WxS (eg. WMS, WFS).

The original subject seems to be about finding out about available OGC WxS and in that context what might be nice for metadata managers (and perhaps others?) would be an ASDD service they could use to submit the URL of an OGC WxS service for listing in the ASDD. These could be held in a single metadata record or if important enough (how do we measure this? ASDD search stats?) their GetCapabilities info could be regularly harvested in order to build individual metadata records with more detail. (Of course the usefulness of the 'detail' in these harvested records depends on the people who manage these OGC services filling out the metadata fields so it can be harvested from the GetCapabilities request).

We have a similar problem to solve for Z3950 services searched by the ASDD but the situation is a little more constrained as we only plan to support the existing Z3950 nodes of the ASDD and Z3950 services are not self-describing (ie. no GetCapabilities) so the records will be hand crafted.

I'm working with John Hockaday on this so feel free to comment on anything here John.

Cheers,
Simon
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To: B.Bannerman at bom.gov.au; jody.garnett at gmail.com; nsicad at gmail.com
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Subject: RE: [Aust-NZ] Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS  Services [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Bruce,

Great idea.  I will mention this to Simon Pigot who is doing this work for us.



Regards

Ben Searle
General Manager,
Australian Government Office of Spatial Data Management

Phone: 02 6249 9298
Mobile: 0439-995-785
Fax: 02 6249 9942
Email: ben.searle at ga.gov.au<mailto:ben.searle at osdm.gov.au>
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From: Bruce Bannerman [mailto:B.Bannerman at bom.gov.au]
Sent: Monday, 16 August 2010 9:05
To: Searle Ben; jody.garnett at gmail.com; nsicad at gmail.com
Cc: Aust-NZ at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS Services [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Ben,

Perhaps we could list them via the new ASDD.

GeoNetwork will support services metadata in ISO 19119 format (with links ideally to the ASDD metadata describing the Service?s content).

Bruce


On 16/08/10 8:30 AM, "Ben.Searle at osdm.gov.au" <Ben.Searle at osdm.gov.au> wrote:

Jodi and others,

I would be happy to host any list you develop on the new Gazetteer web site I mentioned in an earlier email.  The new web site will be called OzMap and the gazetteer will be available under OzMap Places.  We are already looking at providing a link to authoritative registers and vocabularies and so a list of WMS and WFS capabilities would also be very relevant.


Any thoughts on this?


Regards

Ben Searle
General Manager,
Australian Government Office of Spatial Data Management

Phone: 02 6249 9298
Mobile: 0439-995-785
Fax: 02 6249 9942
Email: ben.searle at ga.gov.au
Web Site URL: http://www.osdm.gov.au/
Postal address: GPO Box 378, Canberra ACT 2601








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From: aust-nz-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:aust-nz-bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jody Garnett
Sent: Sunday, 15 August 2010 10:01
To: Noli Sicad
Cc: Aust-NZ at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] Australia and New Zealand Available WMS and WFS Services


This is actually a common question; perhaps one small thing we could do as a group is list WMS & WFS services available for the region on our wiki area?

Jody

On 15/08/2010, at 11:52 AM, Noli Sicad wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am looking for WMS and WFS services to see the capabilities of QGIS
> in this area. Do you know if any Australia and New Zealand available
> WMS and WFS services that is open to the public to browse and use?
>
> Yes, I can always try these WMS and WFS (below)
> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Available+WMS+and+WFS+servers
>
> Any plans in pipeline for Australia and New Zealand WMS and WFS
> services?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Noli
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