[Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ
Martin Tomko
tomkom at unimelb.edu.au
Tue Nov 21 04:27:06 PST 2017
I am glad to see the buzz too.
I will investigate if I am able to help more, may well be. I would be interested to assist with an academic track within the FOSS4G, there is one for the global conference and it would attract another part of the community.
Martin
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1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? (John Bryant)
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3. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? (Alex Leith)
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 21:21:23 +1100
From: John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com>
To: Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
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Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ?
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Hi everyone, looks like we have to do it now ;)
Lots of good questions and discussions here re: timing, size, costs,
organisational requirements, and tie-ins. Very nice to know OSGeo has our
back. Definitely more conversations to be had around all this!
My impression: there's enough interest here already to get started.
I see the first steps, roughly, as:
-form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work
together as a group?)
-broadly scope the event, determine key details (what is it? when is it?)
-nominate and save the date
-plot out a schedule for the planning process
-identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
-begin spreading the word!
I'm not especially experienced in event organising, so could very well be
I'm missing some key pieces here. Also a little unsure about process; the
transparency of a mailing list is great, but might it make sense to use
scheduled committee meetings (over IRC/Slack/Google Hangouts/Skype?) to
discuss points like these?
In the interest of taking this bit of momentum and carrying it forward, I
propose we get moving as soon as possible... from what I hear about
conference planning, time goes by too quickly! Would be nice to have the
above under control by year's end.
Onwards!
John
On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <jmckenna at gatewaygeomatics.com>
wrote:
> Hi Adam, all,
>
> Great to see the momentum for a FOSS4G-ANZ event! (as others mentioned,
> this was a hot topic at FOSS4G-Boston, so I am glad to see further
> discussions)
>
> As John, Bruce, and others here can attest, I've been helping organize
> regional and global FOSS4G events now for a long time, and can give some
> open thoughts and advice here (not saying that any of this is useful, but
> just throwing ideas out there for thought). I also pushed very hard for
> the OSGeo foundation to agree to bring the global event to Sydney back in
> 2008/2009, so I feel that I have a history here and can give some advice.
>
> - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in the recent
> FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina). Notice how the
> event is a co-event with OSM's State of the Map event. This absolutely
> makes sense today. In the past, speaking openly here, there was maybe a
> worry that one event would overshadow the other, etc, so these joined
> events never happened. Well that is not the case anymore. I see a future
> where both regional and global FOSS4G and State of the Map teams work
> together (in the past year, Rob Nickerson the State of the Map coordinator
> and I started working together and sharing ideas for the events and how
> they can work more closely together - this direct "phone line" is a first
> step in a closer relationship I believe).
>
> - so I would recommend the name be something like "FOSS4G-SoTM-ANZ"
>
> - it is not too early to start looking at a domain and host for the event
> website. For example, OSGeo can provide a url of something like
> http://anz.foss4g.org We/OSGeo would need the IP address where the website is
> hosted, so we can point the domain to that IP. So in other words, you need
> a host machine for the website first.
>
> - it is also a great time to start working on a logo for the event. FOSS4G
> event logos require the FOSS4G ribbon in it (see some examples at
> http://foss4g.org), which is a longtime symbol of sharing of ideas, the
> flow of innovation, in our community. I think a great way to tackle the
> logo is to setup a logo competition, where the winner gets free
> registration for the event. Or to directly ask local students to draft the
> logo. Both are a great way to start promoting the event.
>
> - regarding the OSGeo foundation's requirements for support, well it does
> depend of what 'support' you need. The OSGeo foundation has typically been
> involved in supporting and providing seed money for the annual global
> event. That is to say that it isn't possible for OSGeo to provide funding
> for a regional event - really there needs to be a clear budget setup, and
> then a formal request sent to the OSGeo Board mailing list for whatever
> funding you need (likely then your request would be added to the next Board
> meeting, and one of your representatives would be asked to attend that
> meeting, on IRC chat, to discuss that agenda item).
>
> - you might consider as part of the FOSS4G-SoTM-ANZ schedule, to hold a
> one-day code sprint (usually on the Saturday after the main talks end), and
> the OSGeo foundation could provide funding for that (see the sprint
> guidelines at https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Code_Sprint_Guidelines). Again,
> a formal request through an email to the OSGeo Board would have to be sent.
>
> - note that OSGeo does not require the Aust-NZ local chapter to be
> formalized / incorporated, for any of this to occur. (from your local
> chapter page I see that incorporation was considered before
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Aust-NZ#Incorporation). What you may need
> though is a bank account, which could spur you to incorporate the local
> chapter. It is up to you.
>
> - But I can tell you here that the OSGeo foundation is more than willing
> for you to start using the OSGeo logo on your materials, website, sponsor
> prospectus, in order to get moving.
>
> - OSGeo can also setup any new mailing lists you need, or even an email
> alias, such as sponsor-foss4g-anz(at)http://osgeo.org that would forward to your
> sponsorship team leaders.
>
> I hope this gives your local team some ideas. I am truly happy and
> excited to see these FOSS4G-ANZ discussions! Let me know if I can help in
> any way.
>
> Thank you,
>
> -jeff
>
>
> --
> Jeff McKenna
> President Emeritus, OSGeo Foundation
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
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> On 2017-11-20 6:55 AM, adam steer wrote:
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> agree with Cameron’s points, and Alex’s, and Toby’s. as a fundamental
>> step, what needs doing to get support from osgeo? formalising the ANZ
>> chapter?
>>
>> I’ll ask around at ANU/CSIRO here in CBR also for venue costs/support.
>>
>> Fundamental other question: would we want to get this going - in 2018?
>> Could I suggest winter or summer - international f4G is usually August-ish,
>> Locate is April-ish - what about June/July-ish or December-ish for
>> ‘foss4g-anz’?
>>
>> Cheers
>> Adam
>>
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 04:18:19 -0700 (MST)
From: dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz>
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Hi all
For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New Zealand and
attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I see the first steps, roughly, as:
>
> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work
> together as a group?)
..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two countries?
One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
- sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
- alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year
- heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the host country
As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS user conference
in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already consisted of
2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on QGIS, one day
on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G event and I'm
keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward making that
happen.
On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in the recent
> FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will be valuable.
Cheers
Daniel
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 11:50:39 +0000
From: Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com>
To: dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz>
Cc: aust-nz at lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ?
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Hi Daniel and others
I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and AU.
Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is supportive. And my
earlier comments around 'organisation' really are around how we can have an
account and seed funding to start from. I think doing that through an
existing organisation sounds way better than creating an entity.
Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right. Somewhere in
there needs to be the organising of a relationship with a body that can
handle the money, though. Once we've got a bit of a prospectus, I can talk
to SSSI, potentially. Are there other organisations may be interested?
And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of video
meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of Dec.
Regards,
Alex
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz> wrote:
> Hi all
>
> For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New Zealand and
> attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
>
> On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I see the first steps, roughly, as:
> >
> > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work
> > together as a group?)
>
> ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two countries?
>
> One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
> - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
> - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year
> - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the host country
>
> As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS user conference
> in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already consisted of
> 2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on QGIS, one day
> on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
>
> There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G event and
> I'm
> keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward making that
> happen.
>
> On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in the recent
> > FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
>
> That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will be valuable.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
>
>
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