[Aust-NZ] Aust-NZ Digest, Vol 114, Issue 16

Ben Caradoc-Davies ben at transient.nz
Thu Nov 23 14:29:31 PST 2017


Cameron,

by my reading, Jamila is expressing interest in hosting *FOSS4G-AU*. 
This would be the stepping stone you recommend.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 24/11/17 07:54, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Jamila,
> 
> I don't believe Australia is ready to hold an international FOSS4G for 
> at least 2 years, and probably more. I believe we should not be 
> considered for an international FOSS4G until we have successfully run a 
> national (Aust/NZ) and then a regional (Asia/Pacific) FOSS4G, probably 
> starting with 50 to 100 delegates.
> 
> And for the first few years we should be looking to run an event at as 
> low a cost as possible - ideally getting a venue for free, or close to 
> free. (I expect that will be a tough ask for you).
> 
> I believe I say this with authority as I chaired the international 
> FOSS4G in 2009, and up to a couple of weeks ago had been on the 
> international FOSS4G committee since 2009.
> 
> So good to hear you interest, but I think you are significantly 
> premature in reaching out.
> 
> 
> On 23/11/17 10:44 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:
>> Re: FOSS4G-ANZ
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>> Greeting from Melbourne Convention Bureau! We represent a partnership 
>> between Victorian Government, City of Melbourne and private enterprise 
>> and our role is to attract national and international meetings and 
>> conferences to Melbourne.
>>
>> We are interested in a discussion about hosting FOSS4G-ANZ in 
>> Melbourne and what support you may require from our side should you 
>> decide to go ahead with it.
>>
>> We have been working on the opportunity to bring the International 
>> FOSS4G Summit to Melbourne for a few years now, so would be happy to 
>> help.
>>
>> With kind regards
>>
>>
>> Jamila Javanshir
>> Senior Business Development Manager, Inaugural Events
>> d|+61 3 9002 2305
>> m|+61 429 553 175
>> jamila.javanshir at melbournecb.com.au
>> www.melbournecb.com.au
>>
>> Head Office Melbourne
>> Collins Square Tower Two
>> Level 28, 727 Collins Street
>> Melbourne Vic 3008
>>
>>
>>
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>>     1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
>>        (Cameron Shorter)
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:22:03 +1100
>> From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
>> To: aust-nz at lists.osgeo.org,
>>     australian-qgis-user-group at googlegroups.com, OSM Australian Talk List
>>     <talk-au at openstreetmap.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> For those interested in being involved in a FOSS4G-ANZ conference for 
>> 2018, I've set up a Doodle pole for a kickoff meeting next week. 
>> Please let us know when you are available.
>>
>> https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w
>>
>> Meeting location: irc://freenode.net#osgeo
>>
>> Primary email list: https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/aust-nz
>>
>> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
>> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work 
>> together as a group?) -broadly scope the event, determine key details 
>> (what is it? when is it?)
>> * How many days?
>> * Venue type?
>> * Target size?
>> * Target cost?
>> * Program?
>> * What location? (how we select it)
>> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times 
>> -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning 
>> process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
>> * Potential bodies to manage finances: SSSI, OSGeo, OSM State of the 
>> Map, other
>> * Potential champions: LINZ, GA, CSIRO,
>> -begin spreading the word!
>>
>> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):
>> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement'
>> -broadly scope the event
>> * How many days?
>> * Venue type?
>> * Target size?
>> * Target cost?
>> * Program?
>> * What location?
>> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times 
>> -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning 
>> process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders
>>
>>
>> Re setting up FOSS4G conferences, the OSGeo Conference Committee has 
>> been building up a cookbook over the years. It is not complete, but is 
>> a starting point:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook
>>
>> Cheers, Cameron
>>
>> On 22/11/17 9:19 pm, John Bryant wrote:
>>> Hi all, I can see the below message on the online version of the
>>> thread, but it didn't come through to my email. I see it was posted
>>> early this morning, but I couldn't see it online until this evening.
>>> In case I'm not the only one who didn't get it, I'll paste it here:
>>>
>>>      Apologies for the cross posting, but I figured it was worth making
>>>      sure a few key people/groups are aware of this discussion.
>>>
>>>      I second Daniel's comments.
>>>
>>>      As an intro, I work at NIWA and have been active in the NZ FOSS
>>>      GIS community for some years (QGIS, Postgis, Geonetwork, GMT,
>>>      GDAL, etc...), and a semi-regular at FOSS4G when I can.
>>>      There are a few events that this could link in with, and a few
>>>      local SIGs & forums that may also be interested, but if
>>>      TechnologyOne are interested in linking this to their QGIS
>>>      workshops, I think that would be an ideal start, possibly even in
>>>      both countries??
>>>
>>>      Some other NZ groups/events we could perhaps work with:
>>>
>>>      NZ Spatial Excellence awards
>>>      Horizons Regional GIS forum
>>>      NZOSA
>>>      ALGIM
>>>      NZ Emerging Spatial Professionals
>>>      ...
>>>
>>>      My time & availability is limited, but very happy to help where I
>>>      can to progress this.
>>>
>>>
>>>      Brent Wood
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 November 2017 at 22:50, Alex Leith <alexgleith at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:alexgleith at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Hi Daniel and others
>>>
>>>      I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and 
>>> AU.
>>>
>>>      Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is
>>>      supportive. And my earlier comments around 'organisation' really
>>>      are around how we can have an account and seed funding to start
>>>      from. I think doing that through an existing organisation sounds
>>>      way better than creating an entity.
>>>
>>>      Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right.
>>>      Somewhere in there needs to be the organising of a relationship
>>>      with a body that can handle the money, though. Once we've got a
>>>      bit of a prospectus, I can talk to SSSI, potentially. Are there
>>>      other organisations may be interested?
>>>
>>>      And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of
>>>      video meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of 
>>> Dec.
>>>
>>>      Regards,
>>>
>>>      Alex
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <dsilk at linz.govt.nz
>>>      <mailto:dsilk at linz.govt.nz>> wrote:
>>>
>>>          Hi all
>>>
>>>          For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New
>>>          Zealand and
>>>          attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.
>>>
>>>          On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>          >
>>>          > I see the first steps, roughly, as:
>>>          >
>>>          > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do
>>>          we work
>>>          > together as a group?)
>>>
>>>          ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two
>>>          countries?
>>>
>>>          One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:
>>>          - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ
>>>          - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year
>>>          - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the
>>>          host country
>>>
>>>          As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS
>>>          user conference
>>>          in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already
>>>          consisted of
>>>          2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on
>>>          QGIS, one day
>>>          on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.
>>>
>>>          There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G
>>>          event and I'm
>>>          keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward
>>>          making that
>>>          happen.
>>>
>>>          On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>          >
>>>          > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in
>>>          the recent
>>>          > FOSS4G-SotM-AR http://www.foss4g-ar.org/ (Argentina).
>>>
>>>          That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will
>>>          be valuable.
>>>
>>>          Cheers
>>>          Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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