[Aust-NZ] What Open Government can learn from us Open Source folks

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi Byron,

A quick first pass to your comments:

1. I think that the value of this document will be increased by having 
signatures from multiple nations. I've restructured slightly so 
signatures can fit under your nationality.

2. It is great to have a government perspective, and would be really 
good if you can add a signature on behalf of a government agency. I 
realise that would be harder to obtain.

3. Yes, please do make use of any these ideas. There are there to share. 
I'll make a point of adding a Creative Commons license.

4. I've provided you with review access so you can add your ideas.

Warm regards, Cameron


On 27/2/18 10:21 am, Byron Cochrane wrote:
> Hi Cameron,
>
> Since I am not a Australian citizen I cannot sign this document, but it reflects a great deal of what I would like to see in NZ.  So this is a very useful document for me.  Thank you for this work.
>
> My perspectives are from inside government but I hope you find them complementary to your thoughts.
>
> First, an idea that I am trying to pitch her in NZ is to create both policies and mechanisms within government that encourage contributions (in kind, in dollars or otherwise depending on the FOSS resource) to open source projects that a government department may choose to use to support their mission.  In part this is risk reduction from the point of view of the agency.  It is also the right thing to do.  If you rely on a FOSS project than surely it is in the agency's benefit to ensure that the project continues and is well managed.  A few problems this idea addresses are:
>      -  The view that FOSS is free of costs.  Generally agencies today understand that this is not the case, but there is a lack of koha culture that encourages contributions.  This should be replace with a culture that expects people who use a resource to donate to its maintenance like the recommended donation box at a museum.
>      -  There may exist no channel by which an agency can contribute back or if the do, this may be discouraged as unnecessary expenditures.  It may in fact be illegal in some jurisdictions.  Appropriate changes in policy and the development of mechanism by which these contributions can be fairly made is critical.  This must include oversight to discourage corruption.
>     -  The business health of FOSS projects will be increased bythe jurisdictions that adopt these policies and mechanisms.  Every FOSS project in the world will want their software used by a government that has implemented such.
>
> Also, the issue of cross government collaboration that you raise in Recommendations 13 & 14 are important.  I found this to be less of a problem when I worked in the states.  Being a highly legalistic culture, this issue was typically address through the use of legally binding Memorandums of Understanding (MOUs) that accompanied the sharing of funds and objectives.  Such agreements were not easily broken by upper management and because of this lent projects a firm mandate.
>
> These are a couple of top of mind ideas I would like to contribute if useful.  I may share more later after I have a chance to digest this more fully.
>
> Do you mind if I use some of these ideas you have presented here in New Zealand?
>
> Cheers,
> Byron Cochrane
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> The Australian Government has asked for feedback on how they are going
>> at Open Government, and I've started a draft response. I'm really keen
>> to make sure that this response is well constructed because I think that
>> if listened to, understood, and acted upon, then we can make a huge
>> difference to the effectiveness of Open Government worldwide - and by
>> extension, to Open Source as well.
>>
>> If you have a chance to read and provide review comments, I'd be very
>> grateful. Email me directly to get review access.
>>
>> (It will take ~ 10 minutes to read. Longer if you take time to think
>> about how things should be reworded and consider what is missing and
>> should be included.)
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#heading=h.5zu4u4o3l7zi
>>
>> -- 
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Technology Demystifier, Learnosity
>> Open Technologies Consultant
>>
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Cameron Shorter
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