[OSGeo Oceania] [Oceania-Board] Geospatial Council of Australia - thoughts?

[Adam Steer]

Hi John

You've expressed my thoughts really well re. awards.

Martin, I have many thoughts on volunteered/acquired/stolen geodata, for
another chat. (Maybe we should get a microgrant and run a forum on the
topic, if we run it in beechworth that'd be ace!)

Alex, thanks for your action reaching out to Paul that's great!! Sooner the
better - a public draft is a strong statement in itself ;).

Cheers,

Adam

On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 15:16 John Bryant <johnwbryant at gmail.com> wrote:

> Adam wrote:
>>
>> Awards - personally not my thing and (IMO) about the last thing a
>> community org should focus on. I've just returned from a couple of
>> years in Norway dealing with a community that is strongly cult of
>> personality (rockstar/award/??) based, and it sucks. Where was the
>> community discussion about awards in OSGeo Oceania?
>>
>
> I feel similarly. I think it's nice to recognise people's successes and
> wins, but industry body awards feel like an echo chamber to me, reinforcing
> in-group relationships. I've always admired OSGeo for its focus on reaching
> the broader community, creating an inviting and open space where anyone can
> participate regardless of affiliations.
>
> The APSEA awards seem like particularly odd bedfellows for OSGeo
> Oceania... despite the "Asia-Pacific" name, they're predominantly
> (entirely?) Australian. Not making a criticism but it doesn't seem in step
> with OSGeo Oceania's community.
>
> Ohyeah, an MoU *has to be* public and reviewable by the community.
>> OSGeo's MoU with OGC is a good example of this practice.
>>
>
> +1
>
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 at 08:14, Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> Oh, sorry – you mean VGI? That was me the academic speaking - Volunteered
>> Geographic Information, e.g., OSM, or any other geo content (e.g.,
>> Mapillary Cam data, or OpenDrone Map, or other) that is volunteered by
>> people, as opposed to a “super” category - User Generated Content, which is
>> any stuff that may be gathered from people out there, even unknowingly
>> (some call this Coerced Geographic Content …)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Agreed with your other points – and this makes it quite tricky to write a
>> good MoU 😊, but there is hope,
>>
>> M.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Adam Steer <adam.d.steer at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Thursday, 30 March 2023 at 10:05 am
>> *To: *Martin Tomko <tomkom at unimelb.edu.au>
>> *Cc: *OSGeo Oceania Board <oceania-board at lists.osgeo.org>, OSgeo -
>> Oceania <oceania at lists.osgeo.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Oceania-Board] [OSGeo Oceania] Geospatial Council of
>> Australia - thoughts?
>>
>> Hi Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately unsurprising, I hope we can all work together to be better.
>>
>>
>>
>> Noncompetition for grants is a great addition to an MoU, alongside
>> preventing channeling of OSGeo, OSM, HOT etc (global) funds to non-open
>> activities. Leading naturally to the principle of open data from
>> open-branded activity; and hackathons resulting in PRs to existing projects
>> rather than fork -> rebrand -> claim.
>>
>>
>>
>> What does "VGC" expand to?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam
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