[OSGeo Oceania] FOSS4G Hobart - Elephant in the room ESRI
Violaine
violaine at posteo.net
Wed Nov 20 09:55:35 PST 2024
Hi,
My quick 2 cents : I felt it weird too, and bring an unconfortable
feeling. (It doesnt question the capacity to organize a great event thought)
Have a lovely day all
Le 20/11/2024 à 03:23, John Bryant via Oceania a écrit :
> Thanks for bringing it up Andrew J, it hasn't sat especially well with
> me either. It was a great event, but it seemed incongruous to have a
> vendor selling ArcGIS at a booth at a FOSS4G.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 at 21:02, Andrew Harvey via Oceania
> <oceania at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Good on you for speaking up about your concerns! I'm sure you're
> not the only one who had this thought.
>
> Speaking from myself here, as far as I'm aware anyone can support
> the conference financially through sponsorship without any other
> requirements, but it would be up to the organising committee and
> board if they did want to add additional conditions for accepting
> sponsors.
>
> However given ESRI's involvement with OpenStreetMap
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Esri), in particular their
> "Esri World Imagery" which they provide to OpenStreetMap for
> tracing features, and their OpenStreetMap powered basemaps which
> help make it easier for people to consume OpenStreetMap data. I
> would say they are very much a positive part of the OpenStreetMap
> community and with FOSS4G SotM Oceania being a State of the Map
> conference the more financial support we have from entities who
> want to help OpenStreetMap the stronger OSGeo Oceania and the
> conference will be.
>
> Andrew Harvey
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2024, at 10:07 PM, Andrew Jeffrey via Oceania wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I hope everyone that was able to attend the FOSS4G SOTM Oceania
>> Hobart conference had a great time. I'm still very much bummed
>> that I wasn't able to make it down there and my only start at the
>> OO conference remains Melbourne in 2018. I plan on improving my
>> numbers as best I can into the future, but from the outside
>> looking in, it looked like all those that attended had a blast -
>> well done conference committee and OO board.
>>
>> I am writing to the list because I have a question that has been
>> bugging me ever since I talked to a colleague who attended the
>> event. That question is "What's the deal with ESRI being
>> a sponsor?". I have genuine curiosity when it comes to the
>> decision process in having them on board. I understand these
>> things take money to put on and the conference needs to turn a
>> profit, a healthy conference makes for a healthy OO which allows
>> the organisation to do many of the great things that they do.
>> However, I think this sponsorship from ESRI should be
>> reconsidered in the future.
>>
>> Just to be clear, I am not opposed to speakers who work for ESRI
>> coming and talking, from all reports the keynote from Kate Fickas
>> was amazing (as were all the keynotes from what I hear) and these
>> are the industry people that we all crave to hear from - top job
>> in landing that line up! But as for sponsorship I feel that ESRI
>> is putting their brand on a community that a lot of us turned to
>> when looking for refuge from them.
>>
>> I acknowledge that my opinion on this is biased as a QGIS
>> advocate and trainer. But something about this just feels off! I
>> don't see what's in it for the FOSS4G community having ESRI
>> involved in our conferences, to me it looks more of a cheap way
>> for them to buy some good news without doing anything to improve
>> the relationship with the FOSS4G community.
>>
>> However, I know I wasn't there, and I could be wrong about the
>> whole thing. Maybe the overwhelming opinion is that it's a good
>> thing and this is a step in the right direction? I would be
>> interested in hearing what people think and even hearing from
>> someone on the conference organising committee that has more
>> knowledge about this. Is this something the conference would do
>> again? Is there a limit to their involvement? What would have
>> happened if they were a platinum sponsor and got the primary logo
>> placement + verbal mention at opening and closing of the event?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Andrew
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