[OpenDroneMap-users] laptop recommendation

Sun Apr 12 12:25:00 PDT 2015

Look into system76 laptops. I process ~60 photos in 2.5hrs. Plenty of
process power to run ODM.   As others stated a power sources to keep charge
is going to be a must.  I have a galago ultra pro here are the specs....

Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit14.1"
1080p Full High Definition ColorPro IPS Display with Matte Surface ( 1920 x
1080 )
Intel® Iris™ Pro Graphics 5200
4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4750HQ Processor ( 2.0 GHz 6MB L3 Cache - 4
Cores plus Hyperthreading )
16 GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 2 X 8 GB+$175.00
240 GB Intel 730 Series Solid State Drive
No Secondary Hard Drive
Intel® Dual Band Wireless-AC 3160 AC Wireless LAN up to 433 Mbps + Bluetooth

Chris
On Apr 12, 2015 3:02 PM, <opendronemap-users-request at lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

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> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 19:48:49 +0700
> From: Frederic Muller <fred at cm17.com>
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> Subject: [OpenDroneMap-users] laptop recommendation
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> Hi!
>
> I was thinking to add a laptop to my hexacopter which purpose is to do
> orthophoto. Do you have any recommendation regarding the CPU/RAM/HDD and
> Video for such a dedicated machine?
>
> What do you guys run ODM on?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> Fred
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:12:59 -0700
> From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
> To: Frederic Muller <fred at cm17.com>,
>         opendronemap-users at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenDroneMap-users] laptop recommendation
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> On 04/12/2015 05:48 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I was thinking to add a laptop to my hexacopter which purpose is to do
> > orthophoto. Do you have any recommendation regarding the CPU/RAM/HDD and
> > Video for such a dedicated machine?
> >
> > What do you guys run ODM on?
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Fred
>
> My recommendation is to not use a laptop. I'm also confused about your
> wording, you want to fly the laptop or just use the laptop to
> post-process the images. Is the reason for a laptop so you can see
> results in the field? That's unrealistic unless you subsample to a very
> small set of photos.
>
> A desktop, server, or virtualized server will in almost all cases
> provide faster results. In the case of virtualized you can also only pay
> a few cents an hour when you use it.
>
> CPU seems to matter the most right now so Intel i7 or 2600v3 cpu, solid
> state disks never hurt. At this time ODM does not appear to need huge
> amounts of RAM. It also does not yet leverage any GPU offloading, though
> there has been discussion of it.
>
> -Alex
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 00:27:12 +0700
> From: Frederic Muller <fred at cm17.com>
> To: opendronemap-users at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenDroneMap-users] laptop recommendation
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> On 04/13/2015 12:12 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
> > On 04/12/2015 05:48 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I was thinking to add a laptop to my hexacopter which purpose is to do
> >> orthophoto. Do you have any recommendation regarding the CPU/RAM/HDD and
> >> Video for such a dedicated machine?
> >>
> >> What do you guys run ODM on?
> >>
> >> Thanks a lot.
> >>
> >> Fred
> >
> > My recommendation is to not use a laptop. I'm also confused about your
> > wording, you want to fly the laptop or just use the laptop to
> > post-process the images. Is the reason for a laptop so you can see
> > results in the field? That's unrealistic unless you subsample to a very
> > small set of photos.
> >
> > A desktop, server, or virtualized server will in almost all cases
> > provide faster results. In the case of virtualized you can also only pay
> > a few cents an hour when you use it.
> >
> > CPU seems to matter the most right now so Intel i7 or 2600v3 cpu, solid
> > state disks never hurt. At this time ODM does not appear to need huge
> > amounts of RAM. It also does not yet leverage any GPU offloading, though
> > there has been discussion of it.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
>
> Sorry for the confusion. The "system" (read hexacopter + computer) will
> be used in a remote area with no internet access. The plan is to use
> Mission Planner for the mission planning and ODM for the image
> post-processing. A desktop does not seem the best solution in our case
> as infrastructure is very bad too (unreliable electricity sources, etc).
> We are thinking to have a casing with everything inside for easy of
> transportation and protection.
>
> Thanks for the other details as those will help.
>
> Fred
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 13:44:04 -0400
> From: Stephen Mather <stephen at smathermather.com>
> To: Frederic Muller <fred at cm17.com>
> Cc: opendronemap-users at lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OpenDroneMap-users] laptop recommendation
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> In that case Fred,
>
> Go with a "Desktop Replacement" type laptop, and you'll do OK.
>
> Cheers,
> Best,
> Steve
> On Apr 12, 2015 1:27 PM, "Frederic Muller" <fred at cm17.com> wrote:
>
> > On 04/13/2015 12:12 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
> > > On 04/12/2015 05:48 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> I was thinking to add a laptop to my hexacopter which purpose is to do
> > >> orthophoto. Do you have any recommendation regarding the CPU/RAM/HDD
> and
> > >> Video for such a dedicated machine?
> > >>
> > >> What do you guys run ODM on?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks a lot.
> > >>
> > >> Fred
> > >
> > > My recommendation is to not use a laptop. I'm also confused about your
> > > wording, you want to fly the laptop or just use the laptop to
> > > post-process the images. Is the reason for a laptop so you can see
> > > results in the field? That's unrealistic unless you subsample to a very
> > > small set of photos.
> > >
> > > A desktop, server, or virtualized server will in almost all cases
> > > provide faster results. In the case of virtualized you can also only
> pay
> > > a few cents an hour when you use it.
> > >
> > > CPU seems to matter the most right now so Intel i7 or 2600v3 cpu, solid
> > > state disks never hurt. At this time ODM does not appear to need huge
> > > amounts of RAM. It also does not yet leverage any GPU offloading,
> though
> > > there has been discussion of it.
> > >
> > > -Alex
> > >
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion. The "system" (read hexacopter + computer) will
> > be used in a remote area with no internet access. The plan is to use
> > Mission Planner for the mission planning and ODM for the image
> > post-processing. A desktop does not seem the best solution in our case
> > as infrastructure is very bad too (unreliable electricity sources, etc).
> > We are thinking to have a casing with everything inside for easy of
> > transportation and protection.
> >
> > Thanks for the other details as those will help.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
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> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:53:23 -0700
> From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
> To: Frederic Muller <fred at cm17.com>,
>         opendronemap-users at lists.osgeo.org
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> On 04/12/2015 10:27 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> > On 04/13/2015 12:12 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
> >> On 04/12/2015 05:48 AM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>> I was thinking to add a laptop to my hexacopter which purpose is to do
> >>> orthophoto. Do you have any recommendation regarding the CPU/RAM/HDD
> and
> >>> Video for such a dedicated machine?
> >>>
> >>> What do you guys run ODM on?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot.
> >>>
> >>> Fred
> >>
> >> My recommendation is to not use a laptop. I'm also confused about your
> >> wording, you want to fly the laptop or just use the laptop to
> >> post-process the images. Is the reason for a laptop so you can see
> >> results in the field? That's unrealistic unless you subsample to a very
> >> small set of photos.
> >>
> >> A desktop, server, or virtualized server will in almost all cases
> >> provide faster results. In the case of virtualized you can also only pay
> >> a few cents an hour when you use it.
> >>
> >> CPU seems to matter the most right now so Intel i7 or 2600v3 cpu, solid
> >> state disks never hurt. At this time ODM does not appear to need huge
> >> amounts of RAM. It also does not yet leverage any GPU offloading, though
> >> there has been discussion of it.
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >
> > Sorry for the confusion. The "system" (read hexacopter + computer) will
> > be used in a remote area with no internet access. The plan is to use
> > Mission Planner for the mission planning and ODM for the image
> > post-processing. A desktop does not seem the best solution in our case
> > as infrastructure is very bad too (unreliable electricity sources, etc).
> > We are thinking to have a casing with everything inside for easy of
> > transportation and protection.
> >
> > Thanks for the other details as those will help.
> >
> > Fred
> >
>
> Unreliable power will be your biggest issue. You can get a beefed up 4
> core i7 but it will require a lot of power, at least 65W TDP (most
> laptops these days are 15W TDP). This will process ODM photos for you
> but it will still take hours depending on the number of photos. So
> unless you plan to have a generator or large external battery all of
> this is extremely tricky. Laptops with that much compute power will only
> last 1-2 hours on battery, maybe enough for 25-50 photos.
>
> Will you be transporting by backpack or by vehicle (does weight matter)?
> Mission planning in the field is much more realistic. Do you have to do
> the post processing in the field?
>
> Note with a desktop type computer you can use an external UPS to ensure
> a stable power and bridge 30 minute outages. A Well engineered desktop
> rig has much better cooling and can generally run the CPU at a higher
> clock speed, which in this case equals faster processing. Also note with
> a desktop you can get an 8 core i7, those don't exist for laptops afaik
> because of power consumption issues. Keep in mind you can use a micro
> atx case so it doesn't have to be huge.
>
> I currently run a 4 core i5 (3rd gen I think)  3.4Ghz turbo (turbo is
> max speed when only using 1 core) desktop . That's where I get the 2+
> hours estimate for a 25-50 photo set.
>
> Browsing CPUs, there's no performance 5th Gen mobile i7 yet, they are
> all designed to extend battery life over processing speed.
>
> 4th gen theres the MX, MQ and HQ lines
>
> http://ark.intel.com/products/75131/Intel-Core-i7-4900MQ-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz
>
>
> http://ark.intel.com/products/78940/Intel-Core-i7-4940MX-Processor-Extreme-Edition-8M-Cache-up-to-4_00-GHz
>
> Browse more cpus
> http://ark.intel.com/
> http://cpuboss.com/
>
> Here's an example monster laptop
> http://amzn.com/B00OBQ5QS0
> I would expect the battery to last 1-1.5 hours while processing photos
> (it has 3 hour battery if only web surfing).
>
> -Alex
>
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