[OpenLayers-Dev] bus number (regarding infrastructure)

[Tim Schaub]

Hey-

Christopher Schmidt wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 03:21:48PM -0700, Tim Schaub wrote:
>> Hey-
>>
>> MetaCarta graciously hosts our project infrastructure.
>>
>> Chris handles all (or nearly all) admin work.  I assume this is all in 
>> his free time.
> 
> The OpenLayers server maintenance -- that is, maintaining the website
> itself -- is supported by MetaCarta, but almost all other work is done
> in my 'free time'. (So, mostly right, but if the website dies, I get a
> phone call, even if I am on vacation. :))
> 
>> Erik has taken responsibility for accepting license agreements and trac 
>> account requests.  I assume he manually adds people to an htpasswd file 
>> when doing the latter.  I suggested the AccountManager plugin to remove 
>> the manual step - but I'm not sure exactly how permissions are handled 
>> (for sandbox or core contributions).
>>
>> With Erik's departure, we reduce our bus number by one - with respect to 
>> the number of people with access to our project infrastructure.
>>
>> I'd like to hear discussion again on the following:
>> 1) Giving access to non-MetaCarta employees for the current servers.
> 
> This one can't really happen with our current setup.
> 
>> 2) Moving to OSGeo infrastructure.
> 
> This is the one I'd prefer. I'm glad to do it if someone else volunteers
> a weekend of time to help. It will probably require at least some prep
> work, and an acceptance of the community of downtime during the
> transition. (My biggest reason for not transitioning yet is becasue i
> think there will be a period of hours/days/possibly a week during which
> we work out kinks, and I get enough abuse as is on the project that I
> don't want to invite more on my own.)
> 
> If someone else is interested, the best thing to do is to:
>  * Speak up here

Great.  I'm interested in helping out.

>  * Help concoct a plan

I agree about waiting until after 2.8 for any downtime.  If we can do 
any work before, I'll be more available at the end of next week.

I look forward to talking more detail later.

Tim

>  * Join the SAC committee list on the osgeo servers, and start
>    discussing it
> 
> Over the past year, I have worked out most of the technical kinks to the
> OSGeo infrastructure with regard to OSGeo in prep for us moving thee, so
> at this point, it's just accepting the downtime and moving forward.
> 
> I would propose that we wait to have this downtime until *after* 2.8.
> Currently, our milestone needs to have 4 tickets a day closed or moved
> in order to get us to a release on time, and migrating to OSGeo takes
> away valuable time towards that goal.
> 
>  
>> I guess my motivation boils down to this: if Chris ever decides to take 
>> a real vacation, nobody can do squat to manage the infrastructure (for 
>> practical purposes).
> 
> Agreed. This has been weighing on my mind, and motivated the change to
> the account admin changes.
> 
> Note that technically, John Frank also has access to the servers, and
> the documentation for managing them is mostly in the wiki, but I agree
> that this is only a last-defense; informative in case I *actually* 
> get hit by a bus before we move to OSGeo, but I completely 
> agree we should move to OSGeo long term.   
> 
> Regards,


-- 
Tim Schaub
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