[OpenLayers-Dev] proposal for GeoExt governance
Tim Schaub
tschaub at opengeo.org
Thu Mar 19 02:47:46 EDT 2009
Hey-
Erik Uzureau wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:33, Tim Schaub wrote:
>
> Hey-
>
> Erik Uzureau wrote:
> > So from this mail and reading the two links... it sounds like the
> impact
> > for OL PSC
> > would be that we must make sure that:
> >
> > 1) GeoExt has a OSGeo-friendly license (and doesn't change it)
> > 2) All contributors to GeoExt project have signed CLA
> > 3) GeoExt remains Geo-related.
> >
> > Seems like (1) and (3) are essentially a one-time deal. (2), however,
> > would imply someone from OL PSC monitoring all GeoExt commits
> > and double-checking to see that CLAs are on file for the committer
> > or in the event that the committer is merely acting as a reviewer,
> > then for the originator of the patch.
> >
>
> Thanks for the response Erik. I think you've described the practical
> implications well.
>
> > None of this seems particularly difficult or time consuming.
> >
> > My immediate question, though, is "can a member of the OL PSC
> > act in any of these roles if they are also a member of the GeoExt
> > PSC (or general community)?"
>
> Sure. This is what I was imagining.
>
>
> Really? I'd maybe put that one to the good people at OSGEO before
> declaring a victory. I don't wanna be a sourpuss, but to me this has
> hints of some sort of wierd rotary-clubesque golden parachuting.
>
Yes, really.
> I mean, correct me if I'm wrong here, but even barring the above
> conflict-of-interest issue, there just doesn't seem to be any sense
> of *real* responsibility happenning at any stage of this game, does
> there?
I'm curious what sort of conflict of interest you see. Eric Lemoine and
I serve on project steering committees for both OpenLayers and GeoExt.
My interests in both capacities are very much aligned. My
responsibilities on the OL PSC are to make sure that project continues
to flourish and that it continues to meet the criteria of an OSGeo
member project. As a member of the GeoExt PSC, I am interested in
seeing that project grow into a candidate for OSGeo membership. I
imagine the same is true for Eric.
The idea for proposing that the OpenLayers PSC assist in the governance
of GeoExt was suggested by Frank Warmerdam (copied here) when we asked
for advice on assigning copyright for the GeoExt codebase to OSGeo.
I am comfortable assuming the responsibilities of a PSC member for both
projects. Does anyone else see a conflict here? To me it seems like a
very sensible way for the OpenLayers PSC to be able to accept the role
of assisting in GeoExt governance. (If the OpenLayers PSC had no
relation to the GeoExt PSC, I imagine it would be harder to accept this
responsibility.)
Tim
Start of thread:
http://n2.nabble.com/proposal-for-GeoExt-governance-td2477185.html
>
> Erik
>
>
>
>
> Governance in this case is largely about asking for evidence that
> guidelines are being met.
>
> >
> > If the answer is "yes", and either Tim or Eric (who I know are both
> > involved in GeoExt) would like to take on the responsibilities, then
> > I don't see any reason for the OL PSC *not* to approve this.
> >
> > If the answer is "no", then a suitable chaperone among the uninvolved
> > on the OL PSC will have to step up.
> >
> > Are there any side effects to this that are not being listed
> here? I mean,
> > whether the answer to my above question is "yes" or "no", it
> doesn't seem
> > like OL PSC really has anything to *lose* either way.... maybe I'm
> > missing something?
> >
>
> I don't think there are implications that you are missing. If there is
> no more discussion, I'll ask for a vote tomorrow.
>
> Tim
>
> > Erik
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 23:54, Tim Schaub <tschaub at opengeo.org
> <mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org>
> > <mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org <mailto:tschaub at opengeo.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > Hey-
> >
> > GeoExt is a project that aims to provide an Ext based toolkit for
> > developing applications with OpenLayers. The library will
> extend Ext
> > widgets and data management classes with mapping
> functionality from
> > OpenLayers.
> >
> > The GeoExt project steering committee and existing users and
> developers
> > are interested in assigning copyright for the GeoExt code
> base to the
> > OSGeo foundation. For OSGeo to accept copyright, it would be
> ideal if
> > an existing OSGeo project could participate in the governance
> of the
> > GeoExt project.
> >
> > Our hope (as the GeoExt PSC) is that the OpenLayers PSC would
> accept
> > this responsibility. Exactly what "participate in the
> governance" means
> > is a little hard to nail down. I've put together a proposal
> with a bit
> > more specific language:
> >
> > http://www.geoext.org/trac/geoext/wiki/governance
> >
> > I'd like to open discussion on this proposal and get a vote
> from the
> > OpenLayers PSC some time next week.
> >
> > What this means for the OpenLayers PSC:
> >
> > The OpenLayers PSC requires that the GeoExt PSC provides
> evidence that
> > GeoExt is following the criteria for becoming an OSGeo member
> project
> > (as far as I can tell, this is best described here
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs#Criteria).
> >
> > In practice, this will mean that the OpenLayers PSC will
> request that
> > the GeoExt PSC provide information on contributors and signed
> > contributor license agreements, and that the GeoExt PSC
> maintains the
> > "geospatial" nature of the project.
> >
> > Questions and feedback welcome.
> > Tim
> >
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