From jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi Thu Sep 5 12:15:28 2019 From: jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi (Rahkonen Jukka (MML)) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 19:15:28 +0000 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar coordinate systems Message-ID: Hi, I followed the recording from FOSS4G 2019 about the new features in OL 6 https://media.ccc.de/v/bucharest-337-openlayers-6-there-and-back-again. At time 16:35 there is a slide that states "Use only geographic coordinates (WGS 84) in the API". I wonder if such change would make it difficult to work with the Polar coordinate systems like those used in the Arctic SDI geoportal https://geoportal.arctic-sdi.org/ (press the World icon under the scale slider for selecting your favourite). Do we need to be worried? Jukka Rahkonen National Land Survey of Finland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi Thu Sep 5 21:44:40 2019 From: jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi (Rahkonen Jukka (MML)) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 04:44:40 +0000 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar coordinate systems Message-ID: <457798a576c947cd9e805cc896970a94@C119S212VM042.msvyvi.vaha.local> Hi, My concern was if the accuracy of conversions is good enough in WGS 84 system because one meter jumps around the North pole have quite big effect on Lon coordinates and quite small effect on Lat coordinates. gdaltransform -s_srs epsg:3574 -t_srs epsg:4326 0 0 -40 90 0 0 1 140 89.9999910451167 0 0 -1 -40 89.9999910451167 0 0 -2 -40 89.9999820902333 0 1 -2 -13.434948822922 89.9999799762722 0 -Jukka- Lähettäjä: Andreas Hocevar Lähetetty: perjantai 6. syyskuuta 2019 0.32 Vastaanottaja: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) Aihe: Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar coordinate systems Hey, nothing to be worried about. We’re only adding convenience, not removing any features regarding projections. Andreas. On Thursday, September 5, 2019, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) > wrote: Hi, I followed the recording from FOSS4G 2019 about the new features in OL 6 https://media.ccc.de/v/bucharest-337-openlayers-6-there-and-back-again. At time 16:35 there is a slide that states “Use only geographic coordinates (WGS 84) in the API”. I wonder if such change would make it difficult to work with the Polar coordinate systems like those used in the Arctic SDI geoportal https://geoportal.arctic-sdi.org/ (press the World icon under the scale slider for selecting your favourite). Do we need to be worried? Jukka Rahkonen National Land Survey of Finland -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andreas.hocevar at gmail.com Thu Sep 5 23:33:42 2019 From: andreas.hocevar at gmail.com (Andreas Hocevar) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 08:33:42 +0200 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar coordinate systems In-Reply-To: <457798a576c947cd9e805cc896970a94@C119S212VM042.msvyvi.vaha.local> References: <457798a576c947cd9e805cc896970a94@C119S212VM042.msvyvi.vaha.local> Message-ID: There will be a way to configure things so coordinates are not transformed inside OpenLayers. This will allow you to continue working with your local projection without any conversion loss. Andreas. On Friday, September 6, 2019, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > Hi, > > > > My concern was if the accuracy of conversions is good enough in WGS 84 > system because one meter jumps around the North pole have quite big effect > on Lon coordinates and quite small effect on Lat coordinates. > > > > gdaltransform -s_srs epsg:3574 -t_srs epsg:4326 > > 0 0 > > -40 90 0 > > 0 1 > > 140 89.9999910451167 0 > > 0 -1 > > -40 89.9999910451167 0 > > 0 -2 > > -40 89.9999820902333 0 > > 1 -2 > > -13.434948822922 89.9999799762722 0 > > > > -Jukka- > > > > > > *Lähettäjä:* Andreas Hocevar > *Lähetetty:* perjantai 6. syyskuuta 2019 0.32 > *Vastaanottaja:* Rahkonen Jukka (MML) > > *Aihe:* Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar > coordinate systems > > > > Hey, > > > > nothing to be worried about. We’re only adding convenience, not removing > any features regarding projections. > > > > Andreas. > > On Thursday, September 5, 2019, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I followed the recording from FOSS4G 2019 about the new features in OL 6 > https://media.ccc.de/v/bucharest-337-openlayers-6-there-and-back-again. > At time 16:35 there is a slide that states “Use only geographic coordinates > (WGS 84) in the API”. I wonder if such change would make it difficult to > work with the Polar coordinate systems like those used in the Arctic SDI > geoportal https://geoportal.arctic-sdi.org/ (press the World icon under > the scale slider for selecting your favourite). Do we need to be worried? > > > > Jukka Rahkonen > > National Land Survey of Finland > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mihkel.oviir at gmail.com Thu Sep 5 23:43:15 2019 From: mihkel.oviir at gmail.com (Mihkel Oviir) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2019 09:43:15 +0300 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar coordinate systems In-Reply-To: References: <457798a576c947cd9e805cc896970a94@C119S212VM042.msvyvi.vaha.local> Message-ID: Yeah, this shoud be obvious, as there is colorful world outside of web-mercator. There is no point to recreate Leaflet. Many usecases uses national basemap in national coordinate system and all raster and vector overlays are also in national coordinate system. These use cases live in they own EPSG:CODE, so all input coordinates should be also on that. But as default coordinate system is web-mercator, which is not used outside of tiling (at all), it is reasonable, that data is assumed on wgs. Kontakt Andreas Hocevar () kirjutas kuupäeval R, 6. september 2019 kell 09:33: > There will be a way to configure things so coordinates are not transformed > inside OpenLayers. This will allow you to continue working with your local > projection without any conversion loss. > > Andreas. > > On Friday, September 6, 2019, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < > jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> My concern was if the accuracy of conversions is good enough in WGS 84 >> system because one meter jumps around the North pole have quite big effect >> on Lon coordinates and quite small effect on Lat coordinates. >> >> >> >> gdaltransform -s_srs epsg:3574 -t_srs epsg:4326 >> >> 0 0 >> >> -40 90 0 >> >> 0 1 >> >> 140 89.9999910451167 0 >> >> 0 -1 >> >> -40 89.9999910451167 0 >> >> 0 -2 >> >> -40 89.9999820902333 0 >> >> 1 -2 >> >> -13.434948822922 89.9999799762722 0 >> >> >> >> -Jukka- >> >> >> >> >> >> *Lähettäjä:* Andreas Hocevar >> *Lähetetty:* perjantai 6. syyskuuta 2019 0.32 >> *Vastaanottaja:* Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < >> jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi> >> *Aihe:* Re: [OpenLayers-Dev] OpenLayers 6 and only WGS 84 API with Polar >> coordinate systems >> >> >> >> Hey, >> >> >> >> nothing to be worried about. We’re only adding convenience, not removing >> any features regarding projections. >> >> >> >> Andreas. >> >> On Thursday, September 5, 2019, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < >> jukka.rahkonen at maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I followed the recording from FOSS4G 2019 about the new features in OL 6 >> https://media.ccc.de/v/bucharest-337-openlayers-6-there-and-back-again. >> At time 16:35 there is a slide that states “Use only geographic coordinates >> (WGS 84) in the API”. I wonder if such change would make it difficult to >> work with the Polar coordinate systems like those used in the Arctic SDI >> geoportal https://geoportal.arctic-sdi.org/ (press the World icon under >> the scale slider for selecting your favourite). Do we need to be worried? >> >> >> >> Jukka Rahkonen >> >> National Land Survey of Finland >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/openlayers-dev -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andreas.hocevar at gmail.com Thu Sep 26 13:57:41 2019 From: andreas.hocevar at gmail.com (Andreas Hocevar) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2019 22:57:41 +0200 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] PSC nomination In-Reply-To: References: <8A7D5FAF-4C49-4D23-942D-53FF0D482D57@pagameba.com> Message-ID: +1 for having fredj join from me as well. Thanks Paul for your important role in bringing slippy maps to the Open Source world! Andreas. On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:45 PM Tim Schaub wrote: > Thanks Paul. > > +1 from me for having fredj join! > > Tim > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM Paul Spencer wrote: > >> Hi devs and PSC members, >> >> I feel strongly that the community should be represented by those most >> active in it and to that end, I would like to formally nominate fredj to >> the OpenLayers PSC and offer to stand down. >> >> I am no longer an active member of the OpenLayers community, or even the >> larger open source geospatial community, my employment having changed and >> taken my professional and personal life in a different direction. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Spencer > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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September 2019 22:57:41 MESZ schrieb Andreas Hocevar : >+1 for having fredj join from me as well. > >Thanks Paul for your important role in bringing slippy maps to the Open >Source world! > >Andreas. > >On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 10:45 PM Tim Schaub >wrote: > >> Thanks Paul. >> >> +1 from me for having fredj join! >> >> Tim >> >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM Paul Spencer >wrote: >> >>> Hi devs and PSC members, >>> >>> I feel strongly that the community should be represented by those >most >>> active in it and to that end, I would like to formally nominate >fredj to >>> the OpenLayers PSC and offer to stand down. >>> >>> I am no longer an active member of the OpenLayers community, or even >the >>> larger open source geospatial community, my employment having >changed and >>> taken my professional and personal life in a different direction. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Paul Spencer >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bartvde at osgis.nl Thu Sep 26 22:28:00 2019 From: bartvde at osgis.nl (Bart van den Eijnden) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 07:28:00 +0200 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] PSC nomination In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D92154A-0FBE-46CD-A753-BBEDAC7A4680@osgis.nl> +1 thanks Paul for your service to the community, I’ve learned a lot from you personally from the Chameleon days and beyond. Welcome fredj! Best regards, Bart Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Sep 2019, at 22:45, Tim Schaub wrote: > >  > Thanks Paul. > > +1 from me for having fredj join! > > Tim > >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM Paul Spencer wrote: >> Hi devs and PSC members, >> >> I feel strongly that the community should be represented by those most active in it and to that end, I would like to formally nominate fredj to the OpenLayers PSC and offer to stand down. >> >> I am no longer an active member of the OpenLayers community, or even the larger open source geospatial community, my employment having changed and taken my professional and personal life in a different direction. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Spencer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bartvde at osgis.nl Thu Sep 26 22:30:16 2019 From: bartvde at osgis.nl (Bart van den Eijnden) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 07:30:16 +0200 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] PSC nomination (II) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 I still vividly remember Chris travelling with 8 or so mobile phones to the mobile codesprint in Lausanne. Thanks for your great efforts in openlayers Chris! Welcome Marc! Best regards, Bart Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Sep 2019, at 22:50, Tim Schaub wrote: > >  > As part of revitalizing the PSC, we'd also like to bring Marc Jansen on. And Chris has offered to move on to alumni status and free up the position for Marc. > > I'm in favor. > > Tim > From frederic.junod at camptocamp.com Mon Sep 30 01:36:15 2019 From: frederic.junod at camptocamp.com (Frederic Junod) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2019 10:36:15 +0200 Subject: [OpenLayers-Dev] PSC nomination In-Reply-To: <4D92154A-0FBE-46CD-A753-BBEDAC7A4680@osgis.nl> References: <4D92154A-0FBE-46CD-A753-BBEDAC7A4680@osgis.nl> Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks to all of you for the nomination ! I've searched my email and found that Christopher gave me write access to the OpenLayers SVN 12 years ago :-) Cheers, fredj PS: Love you too Marc ! On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:52 AM Bart van den Eijnden wrote: > > +1 > > thanks Paul for your service to the community, I’ve learned a lot from you personally from the Chameleon days and beyond. > > Welcome fredj! > > Best regards, > Bart > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 26 Sep 2019, at 22:45, Tim Schaub wrote: > >  > Thanks Paul. > > +1 from me for having fredj join! > > Tim > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM Paul Spencer wrote: >> >> Hi devs and PSC members, >> >> I feel strongly that the community should be represented by those most active in it and to that end, I would like to formally nominate fredj to the OpenLayers PSC and offer to stand down. >> >> I am no longer an active member of the OpenLayers community, or even the larger open source geospatial community, my employment having changed and taken my professional and personal life in a different direction. >> >> Cheers >> >> Paul Spencer > > _______________________________________________ > Dev mailing list > Dev at lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/openlayers-dev -- Frédéric Junod Camptocamp SA