[Live-demo] Re: What color theme should we use for the next liveDVD?

Ionut Ovejanu ovejanu at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 29 04:17:12 PST 2010


Hello,

A combination between lavender and lilac it will be in fashion.

Best regards,
Ionut

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   1. Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Goals and schedule for OSGeo-Live    4.5
      (Cameron Shorter)
   2. Re: Live-demo Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17 (activityworkshop)
   3. Re: Re: Live-demo Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17 (Alex Mandel)
   4. What color theme should we use for the next liveDVD?
      (Cameron Shorter)
   5. Re: What color theme should we use for the next liveDVD? (Hamish)
   6. Re: What color theme should we use for the next liveDVD?
      (Angelos Tzotsos)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 06:58:56 +1100
From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
Subject: [Live-demo] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Goals and schedule for
    OSGeo-Live    4.5
To: Alex Borrell <borrellalex at gmail.com>
Cc: "live-demo at lists.osgeo.org" <live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>
Message-ID: <4CF16300.3080906 at gmail.com>
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Alex,
I'm delighted to see your offer of help. Thank you.

Could you please start by subscribing to our email list:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo

The first thing we need help with is translating the existing 
Application Overviews.
Pick a missing translation from the status page here:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AlRFyY1XenjJdFRDbjFyWHg1MlNTRm10QXk0UWEzWlE&authkey=CPTB6uIE&hl=en_GB#gid=0
Then translate in accordance with the process here:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Translate

In 3 or 4 weeks, we will be starting our testing phases and your help 
there will also be very valuable.
I provide more details on the email list as we get closer.

Welcome to the osgeo-live family.

On 27/11/10 07:48, Alex Borrell wrote:
> Thanks for your wonderful work on live dvd. I've been using it from 
> release 3 in a
> production environment here in Guadalajara, Mexico. If I could help, 
> surely will do!
> I could help translating into spanish (or maybe from spanish to 
> english),  and in
> testing, or any other task you need.
>
> Alejandro Rivero Borrell (Alex Borrell)
> Guadalajara, Mexico
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Cameron Shorter 
> <cameron.shorter at gmail.com <mailto:cameron.shorter at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     We are starting to build the 4.5 OSGeo-Live
>     <http://live.osgeo.org> DVD and want to hear from all included
>     projects, translators, packagers, users, testers or others who
>     wish to help improve OSGeo-Live. OSGeo-Live 4.5 will be released
>     mid March 2011, ready for a number of big GeoSpatial conferences
>     soon after.
>
>     Focus on this next release will be on improved Quality and
>     Translating documentation.
>
>     Contact Us?
>
>     Website: http://live.osgeo.org
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>     Mailing List: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo
>
>     or contact Cameron Shorter directly at: cameronD O
>     TshorterATlisasoftD O Tcom.
>
>
>     Source: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Press_Release_11
>
>     -- 
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>     Geospatial Director
>     Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>     Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:20:28 +0100
From: activityworkshop <mail at activityworkshop.net>
Subject: [Live-demo] Re: Live-demo Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17
To: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:37:15 -0800
> From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>   
> I've built and uploaded the gpsprune package for Lucid. It is now in
> ubuntugis-unstable. So now the install script should be a simple apt-get
> now.
>   

Wow, that's cool, thanks very much! Dare I ask, how difficult was it? 
Did you have to do any recompilation or just a slight tweak to the 
package headers or something?

Second question, would you have done it if it weren't for this 4.5 
release of the live DVD? Was that a one-off fix to get around the 
problem of Prune not being in the Lucid repositories, or would there be 
a benefit to keep this gis-unstable up to date with future backports to 
the LTS release? Version 11 of Prune is already in Narwhal, so if there 
was any interest then theoretically that could be backported too. But if 
it was just a one-off then that's fine too :)



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:22:59 -0800
From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Re: Live-demo Digest, Vol 25, Issue 17
To: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <4CF1A0E3.1070100 at wildintellect.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 11/27/2010 03:20 PM, activityworkshop wrote:
> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:37:15 -0800
>> From: Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>
>>   I've built and uploaded the gpsprune package for Lucid. It is now in
>> ubuntugis-unstable. So now the install script should be a simple apt-get
>> now.
>>   
> 
> Wow, that's cool, thanks very much! Dare I ask, how difficult was it?
> Did you have to do any recompilation or just a slight tweak to the
> package headers or something?
> 
> Second question, would you have done it if it weren't for this 4.5
> release of the live DVD? Was that a one-off fix to get around the
> problem of Prune not being in the Lucid repositories, or would there be
> a benefit to keep this gis-unstable up to date with future backports to
> the LTS release? Version 11 of Prune is already in Narwhal, so if there
> was any interest then theoretically that could be backported too. But if
> it was just a one-off then that's fine too :)
> 

I downloaded the source and debian files from the Maverick package,
modified the changelog to rename the package for lucid, checked the
local build and then put the package to launchpad as source.

So I had:
prune_10/
  debian/
  tim/
  build.sh

cd into prune_10
dch -i  to edit the changelog
debuild to test building
debuild -S -sa -k### (# is your ssh-key for signing)
dput ppa:wildintellect/wildintellect
gpsprune_10-1ubuntu1ppa1~lucid1_source.changes

(Can't find the web page I followed right now)

This was a one time thing specifically to make sure it was available for
Live 4.5 but could be done with future versions. If you have stable
releases of the application and the dependencies are available I think
you used package it for Lucid, Maverick and Natty. The goal of UbuntuGIS
is to have the most recent versions of apps available since the main
repos of Ubuntu can be up to 1 year behind. So if 11 is released there's
nothing stopping it being backported to Lucid and Maverick.

Thanks,
Alex


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 22:00:33 +1100
From: Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
Subject: [Live-demo] What color theme should we use for the next
    liveDVD?
To: "live-demo at lists.osgeo.org" <live-demo at lists.osgeo.org>
Message-ID: <4CF23651.7000001 at gmail.com>
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We should develop our screen background image for the next (March 2010) 
OSGeo-Live DVD, so that it can be used in screen grabs where required.

My only suggested criteria is that the background theme looks noticeably 
different to previous release (but ideally keeps some common feel).

I'm not an artist, and would dearly like some help with our background 
desktop image if anyone is able to help out.

-- 
Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Director
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
http://www.lisasoft.com



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:08:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Hamish <hamish_b at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] What color theme should we use for the next
    liveDVD?
To: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org, Cameron Shorter
    <cameron.shorter at gmail.com>
Message-ID: <245183.71701.qm at web110016.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Cameron wrote:
> We should develop our screen
> background image for the next (March 2010) OSGeo-Live DVD,
> so that it can be used in screen grabs where required.

I'd suggest to not include a changeable backdrop image in screen
shots if possible, so that we don't have the burden of updating
them for every release.

> My only suggested criteria is that the background theme
> looks noticeably different to previous release (but ideally
> keeps some common feel).

as it's still 4.x, I'm not so worried about the interim version
being highly distinct, but have no great opinion about that-
I would not discourage wonderful designs.. :)


Hamish

ps- I'm finding the desktop a bit cluttered and had thought to
perhaps drop the app desktop folders and only have them available
from top menu bar.
votes yes/no?



      


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:36:25 +0200
From: Angelos Tzotsos <gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] What color theme should we use for the next
    liveDVD?
To: live-demo at lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <4CF25AD9.5070003 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

  Hi folks,

I agree with Hamish that since it is a 4.x version, it would be better 
to keep the backdrop image.

As for the Desktop icons, even though I agree (personally I don't like 
links on my Desktop) about Desktop cluttering, I think it is helpful for 
people not familiar with the GNU/Linux OS.
And I know a lot of those people that are willing to try OSGeo Live... 
so -1 from me

Angelos

On 11/28/2010 01:08 PM, Hamish wrote:
> Cameron wrote:
>> We should develop our screen
>> background image for the next (March 2010) OSGeo-Live DVD,
>> so that it can be used in screen grabs where required.
> I'd suggest to not include a changeable backdrop image in screen
> shots if possible, so that we don't have the burden of updating
> them for every release.
>
>> My only suggested criteria is that the background theme
>> looks noticeably different to previous release (but ideally
>> keeps some common feel).
> as it's still 4.x, I'm not so worried about the interim version
> being highly distinct, but have no great opinion about that-
> I would not discourage wonderful designs.. :)
>
>
> Hamish
>
> ps- I'm finding the desktop a bit cluttered and had thought to
> perhaps drop the app desktop folders and only have them available
> from top menu bar.
> votes yes/no?
>
>
>
>
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National Technical University of Athens
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