[Live-demo] 5.0 Beta 4 Status - Space

[Frank Gasdorf]

I really wounder about the gisvm svn folder that is still on the DVD and not
really required for the projects I guess. IMHO I would remove these 180 MB
gisvm directory after successfully installation. Was it an initial thought
to let this folder still on it to "develop" gisvm and try install_scripts
after roll out? If so it should be still on it. But I guess the user who
wants to try any of this project do not really wants to know how to install
(in a specific way) the software components itself.

Any opinions?

Cheers, Frank

2011/8/8 Alex Mandel <tech_dev at wildintellect.com>

> On 08/07/2011 04:57 PM, Hamish wrote:
> > Alex wrote:
> >> Yes a re-audit of Xubuntu is probably in order since it's a
> >> different release version, I'll see if I can make a quick list
> >> by hand of things to remove.
> >
> > have a look for a post by me to this list about 5-6 weeks ago
> > with such a list. things like a couple of 10-20mb theme packs.
> >
> > the base xubuntu still came on a 700mb CD, so in theory will
> > not have grown.
> >
> > useful things like inkscape, gimp, openoffice may have to go if
> > they are still there. but then we lose the ability of the disc
> > to be used as a general purpose enviro, so folks are more likely
> > to reboot out of it and not come back.
> >
> >
> > remember it is compressed size that matters, not what df reports,
> > so uncompressed GeoTiffs etc may be a lot less costly than they
> > seem on the surface.
> >
> >
> > Hamish
>
> Yes I use a rule of thumb 50%. So 200 MB in the OS tends to be 100MB in
> the ISO. This has been fairly true for all of our builds in the past
> though currently we're shrinking 9.8 to 3.8 which is more than 50%
> savings. The nice part is if you don't go down to the individual file
> level it seems to average out compressible vs non.
>
> Inkscape is being used in Cartography these days (I should know I did a
> class with it last year and my friend is giving a talk about it at
> FOSS4G). I believe we already removed gimp, and OOo was never on Xubuntu
> (though it would be nice to have Calc for editing dbf).
> --
>
> Postgis:
> osm_local 38 MB
> osm_local_merc 37 MB
> pgrouting 181 MB
> sahana 21 MB
> mapbender 15 MB
> 52nSOS 20 MB
> natural_earth 69 MB
>
> Aside from asking pgrouting to use the same OSM dump (not sure if they
> switched from their premade sample) postgis seems ok on space usage.
> --
>
> Packages:
>
> libboost1.42-dev  69 M <- Is this necessary after boost packages are
> built? maybe we need better cleanup after boost stuff.
>
> gnome-user-guide 52 M <- Xubuntu, why do we need gnome stuff?
>
> smbclient 42.6 M <- does the live disc need to be able to browse windows
> shares? I can see the value of this for the vm.
>
> openjdk-6-jdk 35 M <- is the dev kit required or is jre sufficient?
>
> oxygen-icon-theme 31 M <- looks like elementary icon is the defualt so
> drop this
> humanity-icon-theme 20.3 M <- same
>
> Looks like that's a 200+ MB savings 100 MB on the ISO, quite good for
> quick look.
>
> For now the following seems safe to tack in the setdown.sh
> apt-get remove oxygen-icon-theme humanity-icon-theme gnome-user-guide
> libboost1.42-dev
>
> Language packs are another place to look after that, but I'm hesitant to
> have to decide between languages. They also only looks like 8 MB a piece
> which doesn't seem right to me - can any non-english users confirm the
> presence of and usability of language selection (ex, does firefox load
> in the chosen language)?
>
> TODO: For 5.5 try to get all the Java packages onto one JRE.
>
> I think the base Xubuntu is in the 1.5-2 GB range, though I will confirm.
> --
>
> /usr/local 2.5 GB
> /usr/share 1.6 GB
> /usr/lib 2.7 GB
> Tot 7.2
>
> /usr/local/share/gisvm 188 M
> /usr/local/share/data 765 M
>
> /usr/local/share/data/north_carolina 435 M
> /usr/local/share/data/natural_earth 249 M
>
> Seems like those last 2 are bigger than we expected 684 M before
> compression, likely 342 M on the ISO.
>
> I believe we need to keep some of the NC dataset, there was talk
> specifically of hi res rasters and lidar which a few apps do want to use
> and might already be. That doesn't mean we need everything though.
>
> Towns as a tif seem kinda odd, wouldn't it be more common to use a
> vector for that or show people how to convert it to raster for analysis
> purposes, etc.. (maybe I'm getting nit picky).
> --
>
> I see and easy 200-300 MB (100-150 on the ISO) of things we can pick
> off. Should put us back closer to the goal.
>
> Now to figure out why the beta4 iso is 100 MB more than the beta3 (I
> suspect it was Xubuntu updates)...
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
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