[Live-demo] Re: Application to include MapWindow 4.8.6 on the OSGeo Live DVD
Cameron Shorter
cameron.shorter at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 13:27:08 PST 2012
Thank you Daniel,
As discussed with you earlier, I think that MapWindow plays an important
role in the Geospatial Open Source stack, and while it doesn't run on
linux as other OSGeo-Live applications, I think we should make an
exception and include as a windows installer.
I caveat this comment based upon whether we can find enough room, which
will probably come at the expense of windows installers for other
applications. I'm hoping we should have a better understanding of the
space availability after Alex creates a build which I think he will be
doing soonish.
Does anyone else from the OSGeo-Live community have comments or
suggestions related to this application?
Paul Meems, can you please confirm that you are ok to be OSGeo-Live's
contact person for MapWindow?
Daniel, do you mind if we keep you name as a back up contact person as
well? (It means you will be CCed on emails we send to project owners,
which doesn't happen too often).
On 5/01/2012 4:03 AM, Daniel P. Ames wrote:
> Cameron, can you approve my membership on this mailing list so that
> our application can go through? Thanks,
>
> - Dan
>
> --------------------------
> Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE
> Associate Professor, Geosciences
> Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
> dan.ames at isu.edu <mailto:dan.ames at isu.edu>
> geology.isu.edu <http://geology.isu.edu/>
> www.mapwindow.org <http://www.mapwindow.org/>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: <live-demo-owner at lists.osgeo.org
> <mailto:live-demo-owner at lists.osgeo.org>>
> Date: Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:01 AM
> Subject: Application to include MapWindow 4.8.6 on the OSGeo Live DVD
> To: dan.ames at isu.edu <mailto:dan.ames at isu.edu>
>
>
> This is an application to include the MapWindow GIS 4.8.6 software on
> the OSGeo Live DVD. The reasons for making this request now are 1) we
> have reached a point where MapWindow is mature and stable enough to be
> included, 2) we would like to offer a .NET native Windows application
> on the DVD, 3) We are holding our 3rd international conference in June
> in the Netherlands and would like to distribute this DVD to the
> conference goers (which will include users and developers of a variety
> of FOSS4G products - hence we'd like to give them the full OSGeo Live
> DVD - not just a CD of MapWindow.)
>
> Here are specific answers to the application request form (answers in
> bold).
>
> * Please describe your application.
> o What is its name? *MapWindow GIS 4.8.6*
> o What is the home page URL?*www.mapwindow.org
> <http://www.mapwindow.org>*
> o Which OSI approved Open Source Licence is used? *Mozilla
> Public License (MPL 1.1)*
> o What does the application do and how does it add value to the
> GeoSpatial stack of software? *This is a desktop GIS that can
> be extended through plugins written in .NET*
> o Does the application make use of OGC standards? Which versions
> of the standards? Client or server? You may wish to add
> comments about how standards are used.*The software uses
> shapefiles and raster data. Plugins are under development to
> access WFS and WMS data.*
> o What language is it written in?*C++, C#, VB.NET <http://VB.NET>*
> o Which version of the application should be included in the
> next OSGeo-Live release?*4.8.6*
>
> * Stability is very important to us on OSGeo-Live. If a new user
> finds a bug in one application, it will tarnish the reputation of
> all other OSGeo-Live applications as well. (Way pay most attention
> to the following answers):
> o If risk adverse organisations have deployed your application
> into production, it would imply that these organisations have
> verified the stability of your software. Has the application
> been rolled out to production into risk (ideally risk adverse)
> organisations? Please mention some of these organisations? *US
> EPA and USGS have made extensive use of MapWindow.*
> o What is the size of the user community? You can often answer
> this by mentioning downloads, or describing a healthy, busy
> email list? *Approximately 6,000 downloads per month and
> 14,000 people on the opt-in mailing list.*
> o What is the size of your developer community?*about 10 active
> developers on MapWindow 4.x with other developers focused on
> plugins and other versions of the software (MapWindow 6 is an
> active work in progress).*
> o Do you have a bug free, stable release? 4.8.6 is significantly
> bug free.*The only major errors reported are related to third
> party plugins that need to be updated.*
> o Please discuss the level of testing that your project has gone
> through. *This version (4.8.x) has undergone 6 test releases
> over the past 18 months. Bugs were found in each test release
> that were then fixed until we got to this stable version.*
> o How long has the project has had mature code. *MapWindow 4.x
> was first released in 2005. The code has continued to mature
> and improve over the years with many new features that
> sometimes introduce bugs - which is why the latest version had
> 6 candidate releases.*
>
> * OSGeo-Live is targeted at applications that people can use rather
> than libraries. Does the application have a user interface
> (possibly a command line interface) that a user can interact with?
> (We do make an exception for Incubated OSGeo Libraries, and will
> include Project Overviews for these libraries, even if they don't
> have a user interface.) *Yes, MapWindow 4.x is primarily an end
> user interface, though it can be extended through custom plugins
> using the MapWindow libraries.*
>
> * We give preference to OSGeo Incubated Projects, or Projects which
> are presented at FOSS4G <http://foss4g.org/> conferences. If your
> project is involved in OSGeo Incubation, or has been selected to
> be presented at FOSS4G, then please mention it. *MapWindow is not
> an Incubated project as of yet, but has been presented at many
> FOSS4G conferences through demo booths, talks, posters, etc.*
>
> * With around 50 applications installed on OSGeo-Live, us core
> packagers do not have the time to liaise with every single project
> email list for each OSGeo-Live release. So we require a volunteer
> (or two) to take responsibility for liaising between OSGeo-Live
> and the project's communities. This volunteer will be responsible
> for ensuring the install scripts and English documentation are
> updated by someone for each OSGeo-Live release. Also test that the
> installed application and Quickstart documentation works as
> expected on release candidate releases of OSGeo-Live. Who will act
> as the project's liaison person.*We have asked Mr. Paul Meems to
> take this role. *
>
> * OSGeo-Live is Ubuntu Linux based. Our installation preference is:
> 1. Install from UbuntuGIS or DebianGIS
> 2. Install .deb files from a PPA
> 3. Write a custom install script
>
> Can you please discuss how your application will be installed.
> -*As we've discussed with Cameron, MapWindow 4.x is a Windows
> native .NET application hence the application will need to appear
> on the DVD as a single executable installer - something like
> MapWindow4.8.x_Install.exe.*
>
> * OSGeo-Live is memory and disk constrained. Can the application run
> in 512 Meg of RAM?*(N/A)*
>
> * How much disk space will be required to install the application
> and a suitable example application? *Installation requires about
> 65 MB of HD space.*
>
> * We aim to reduce disk space by having all applications make use of
> a common dataset. We encourage applications to make use of the
> example datasets already installed:
>
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Add_Project#Example_Datasets If
> another dataset would be more appropriate, please discuss here. Is it
> appropriate, to remove existing demo datasets which may already be
> included in the standard release. *Our small 45MB installer includes a
> few sample data sets that are extracted to the HD on the Windows machine.*
>
> * Each OSGeo-Live application requires a Project Overview available
> under a CC By <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/> and a
> Quickstart available under a CC By-SA
> <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/> license. (You may
> release under a second license as well). Will you produce this?
> *Yes we will produce this. *
>
> * In past releases, we have included Windows and Mac installers for
> some applications. It is likely we won't have space for these in
> future releases. However, if there is room, would you be wishing
> to include Windows and/or Mac installers? *Yes in this case we
> ONLY would like to include a Windows installer. *
>
>
>
> Thanks to the DVD committee for considering inclusion of MapWindow in
> the OSGeo Live DVD.
>
> - Dan
>
> --------------------------
> Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE
> Associate Professor, Geosciences
> Idaho State University - Idaho Falls
> dan.ames at isu.edu <mailto:dan.ames at isu.edu>
> geology.isu.edu <http://geology.isu.edu/>
> www.mapwindow.org <http://www.mapwindow.org/>
>
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Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
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