[Live-demo] EOxServer - an Open Source WMS/WCS for Earth Observations & OSGeo-Live

Sun Jun 3 08:59:14 PDT 2012

 Cameron,

many thanks for your reply. I completely agree to your proposed approach for
6.0. What would be the best procedure to send the docs and install script?

cu
Stephan

On June 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Cameron Shorter <cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:

> Stephan,
> I apologise for the slow response - this email thread has got lost in my
> email inbox.
>
> EOxServer does look like it would be a valuable contribution to
> OSGeoLive. From what I hear, it does seem to be of suitable quality
> software. I'm a bit nervous about your relatively small user community,
> as well as the existence of similar projects which will be competing to
> attract your niche user base. I would like to encourage you to reach out
> to other International Earth Observation software projects to see how
> you can collaborate, and also reach out to other Earth Observation
> communities and attract them as users. This will be important for the
> long term viability of your project.
>
> With regards to including EOxServer on OSGeoLive:
> I don't want to commit yet to including EOxServer in this 6.0 release.
> Partly due to the light community size, but mostly due to the many other
> challenges that we are going to be spending a lot of time on for this
> osgeolive release, (switching to ubuntu 12.04 and openjdk).
> However, you are welcome to write your docs and install script, and we
> can include them in the release. The docs will be on the DVD, but not
> linked from the index page, and install script won't be run during the
> build process, but can be run afterwards (eg at the start of a workshop
> which is using the DVD).
> I'd then suggest that we will probably want to introduce EOxServer into
> the OSGeoLive 6.5 release.
>
>
> On 26/05/12 22:51, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> > Brian, Angelos, all,
> >
> > many thanks for your positive and encouraging comments. Was a pleasure
> > to work with you on IRC :)
> >
> > I like your idea of the beta software. The script you mention is
> > available in our trunk [1] together with a screen shot [2] of what I
> > achieved so far.
> >
> > Best regards from Vienna, Europe,
> > Stephan
> >
> > [1] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/install_eoxserver.sh
> > [2] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/screenshot.png
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:02 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I was present in the discussion Brian mentions and I agree with him.
> >> EOxServer seems to be a well organized project and I feel it should be
> >> included in the disk, initially as beta software for version 6.0. This
> >> would mean no default installation but installable by the user with
> >> instructions through a quickstart document.
> >>
> >> Stephan already created an installer for the disk and I had a chance to
> >> test it against alpha2.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Angelos
> >>
> >> On 05/26/2012 03:52 AM, Brian Hamlin wrote:
> >>> Hi Cameron, OSGeo Live list, all
> >>>
> >>>    I had the good fortune of working with Stephen briefly today.. I got
> >>> a quick look at the project source code, and I happen to work with
> >>> technology similar to some parts of EOxServer, here in California.. so
> >>> I have some way to understand what I see.
> >>>
> >>>    The good news is that EOxServer is *small* and the server portion of
> >>> it can certainly work within our Live parameters for web servers.. My
> >>> first impression is that EOxServer is an agile and well organized
> >>> suite of software that simplifies reading, processing and displaying
> >>> some kinds of raster imagery, onto an OpenLayers web map. The scope is
> >>> specific, the project appears to be well run.
> >>>
> >>>    SISS - I had not seen that SISS page before.. perhaps some of those
> >>> on the cc list are very involved. .
> >>> I can take a guess .. SISS appears to be more of a certified stack of
> >>> large software apps/platforms, along with their supported standards -
> >>> different than a single small app written for a specific purpose..
> >>> The naming of GML signals to me that SISS is aimed at large
> >>> institutions and research bodies..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>    best regards from Berkeley, California
> >>>      -Brian
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On May 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Some of the people involved in Australian/New Zealand Earth
> >>>> Observations (Andrew, RobA, Bruce, Jim, RobertG, David),
> >>>>
> >>>> As per below, Stephan has proposed that EOxServer be included in the
> >>>> OSGeo-Live DVD distribution, which will provide valuable marketing
> >>>> reach for EOxServer. I'm forwarding this on to each of you as I'm
> >>>> interested to understand whether the Australian Bureau of Meteorology
> >>>> (BOM) and CSIRO are aware of EOxServer. Have you considered using
> >>>> EOxServer?
> >>>> What have been your conclusions about such considerations?
> >>>> How does EOxServer compare against the SISS stack?
> >>>>
> >>>> Stephan,
> >>>> Note that BOM/CSIRO have been investing heavily in what they are
> >>>> calling the "Spatial Information Services Stack" (SISS), which
> >>>> consists of:
> >>>> PostGIS
> >>>> GeoServer
> >>>> GeoNetwork
> >>>> THREDDS
> >>>> HollowWorld
> >>>> FullMoon
> >>>> https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/SpatialInformationServicesStackHandbook
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Stephan,
> >>>> I'm interested to know whether participants in the EOxServer have
> >>>> been in touch with programs working on the SISS stack?
> >>>> Are there any areas for collaboration?
> >>>> What are the benefits of EOxServer over SISS?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 26/05/2012 1:21 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:27 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> >>>>>> We are starting to build the 6.0 OSGeo-Live DVD which will be released
> >>>>>> in September 2012, ready for FOSS4G 2012 as well as many other spatial
> >>>>>> conferences. This upcoming version will be built upon the stable
> >>>>>> Xubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support (LTS) release. Documentation will be
> >>>>>> translated into eight languages, now also including Chinese and
> >>>>>> Catalan.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any new applications?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new projects to
> >>>>>> OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add extra translations, or
> >>>>>> anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming release.
> >>>>>> ...
> >>>>> Hi Cameron,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we'd like to propose the inclusion of the EOxServer [1] project in
> >>>>> OSGeo-Live. Three weeks ago we released our version 0.2.0 and even
> >>>>> though it has a rather low version number we think it would add some
> >>>>> value to OSGeo-Live. However, as this is a proposal and we're surely
> >>>>> not
> >>>>> aware of all policies we fully understand different opinions. It would
> >>>>> be great to hear your advice.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here are the details about EOxServer following the wiki at [2]:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Name: EOxServer
> >>>>> URL: http://eoxserver.org
> >>>>> License: MIT
> >>>>> Description and value added:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> EOxServer's mission is to provide an Open Source software framework to
> >>>>> ease the online provision of big Earth Observation data archives via
> >>>>> Open Standard services for efficient exploitation by users.
> >>>>>         * Open Source: MIT-style license
> >>>>>         * software framework: Entirely based on Open Source (Python,
> >>>>>           MapServer, Django, GDAL, etc.)
> >>>>>         * ease online provision: Admin GUI and command line data
> >>>>>           registration
> >>>>>         * big Earth Observation data archives: Operators register
> >>>>> existing
> >>>>>           raster data archives
> >>>>>         * Open Standard services: Open in the sense of freely available;
> >>>>>           Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC); WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS
> >>>>>         * efficient exploitation by users: User defined sub-setting;
> >>>>> view
> >>>>>           and download
> >>>>>
> >>>>> OGC standards: WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS, WCS-T; All versions are
> >>>>> supported that are supported in MapServer. However, focus is on WCS 2.0
> >>>>> and WMS 1.3 and their respective Earth Observation (EO) application
> >>>>> profiles.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Language: Python and a small bit C
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Version: 0.2.0 (maybe 0.2.1 if we need to change something for example
> >>>>> the packaging)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Risk adverse organisations: EOxServer has been partly funded by the
> >>>>> European Space Agency (ESA) which is currently evaluating the
> >>>>> operational use. Also some European Commission supported projects are
> >>>>> evaluating the usage of EOxServer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> User community: There is a user mailing list [3] but not yet much
> >>>>> traffic. According to the Python package index [4] there have been 96
> >>>>> downloads in the last three weeks and according to the website
> >>>>> statistics for eoxserver.org there have been around 3400 unique
> >>>>> visitors
> >>>>> with about 7800 visits in 2012.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Developer community: Again we have a mailing list [3] with a bit more
> >>>>> traffic and nine committers. Please see ohloh [5] for more statistics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Stable release: Our latest stable release is 0.2.0.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Testing: We make extensive usage of Python's and Django's unit test
> >>>>> framework and have about 900 tests included in our autotest instance.
> >>>>> Additionally there are some selenium based tests of the web client and
> >>>>> admin gui.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mature code: Again please see ohloh [5] for these statistics.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> User interface: In EOxServer we distinct between two user roles:
> >>>>> operators and users. Operators can register data and control the server
> >>>>> via the command line and the Django provided admin gui. Users can
> >>>>> explore the available data via a simple web client based on OpenLayers
> >>>>> and jQuery.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Presentation at FOSS4G: There have been talks at the German speaking
> >>>>> FOSSGIS and the recent FOSS4G-CEE conference. Please see the EOxServer
> >>>>> documentation [6] for a list of presentations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Volunteers for liaising: Stephan Meissl and Stephan Krause
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Application installation: Since EOxServer is a Python application the
> >>>>> recommended way of installation is using pip. However, since we're
> >>>>> using
> >>>>> setuptools we can easily provide .deb packages if needed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 512 Meg of RAM: Yes, EOxServer can be run in 512MB of memory. However,
> >>>>> the image rendering will be limited to the capabilities of MapServer
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> GDAL.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Disk space: The current base package extracts to 22MB but includes 15MB
> >>>>> of documentation. Our autotest package which we'd propose for a
> >>>>> demonstration (see below) extracts to 130MB but 90MB of this are
> >>>>> expected results for the tests which can be safely ignored. If needed I
> >>>>> believe we can shrink the test data to under 10MB to still provide a
> >>>>> meaningful demonstration. Usually we also copy the OGC schemas to speed
> >>>>> up XML validation but this might not be necessary here. The packages
> >>>>> are
> >>>>> available here [7].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Other dataset: We have to explore the already included demonstration
> >>>>> data but at a first glance we think we need to include some EO data in
> >>>>> order to show off the capabilities of EOxServer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Project Overview and Quickstart: Will of course be produced and
> >>>>> provided.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers: Not needed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
> >>>>> Stephan on behalf of the EOxServer Team
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org
> >>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
> >>>>> [3] http://eoxserver.org/doc/en/users/mailing_lists.html
> >>>>> [4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/EOxServer/
> >>>>> [5] https://www.ohloh.net/p/eoxserver/
> >>>>> [6] http://eoxserver.org/doc_trunk/en/users/presentations.html
> >>>>> [7] http://eoxserver.org/wiki/Download
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> ==
> >>> Brian Hamlin
> >>> GeoCal-ish
> >>> OSGeo California Chapter
> >>> 415-717-4462 cell
> >>>
> >>>
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