[Live-demo] [eoxserver-dev] EOxServer - an Open Source WMS/WCS for Earth Observations & OSGeo-Live
Angelos Tzotsos
gcpp.kalxas at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 14:04:56 PDT 2012
Hi Cameron,
Stephan already did that to test that he has write permissions.
On 06/26/2012 11:23 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
> Stephan,
> Could you please also add yourself to the OSGeo-Live contributors list
> in subversion: contributors.csv
> We like to credit our contributors, and also claim credit for how many
> people are involved in OSGeo-Live.
>
> On 27/06/2012 12:34 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>> Hi Angelos,
>>
>> many thanks, works perfectly.
>>
>> cu
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 17:14 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>> Hi Stephan,
>>>
>>> Your account has been activated. Feel free to upload your installation
>>> script and let us know if you have access.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Angelos
>>>
>>> On 06/26/2012 04:15 PM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>> Alex, Cameron,
>>>>
>>>> sorry for the long silence, after holidays I still need to catch up
>>>> with
>>>> things.
>>>>
>>>> My OSGeo account username is: schpidi
>>>>
>>>> I confirm that my contributions to OSGeo-Live will be compatible with
>>>> the OSGeo-Live license guidelines at the time of contribution.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Stephan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 15:16 -0700, Alex Mandel wrote:
>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sign up for an osgeo account, tell us your username and then we'll
>>>>> give
>>>>> you access to svn. You'll be able to manage your scripts and files
>>>>> directly via svn.
>>>>>
>>>>> See http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#OSGeo_User_Id
>>>>> and the section below that on svn.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/03/2012 08:59 AM, stephan at meissl.name wrote:
>>>>>> Cameron,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> many thanks for your reply. I completely agree to your proposed
>>>>>> approach for
>>>>>> 6.0. What would be the best procedure to send the docs and
>>>>>> install script?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cu
>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On June 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM Cameron
>>>>>> Shorter<cameron.shorter at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>> I apologise for the slow response - this email thread has got
>>>>>>> lost in my
>>>>>>> email inbox.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> EOxServer does look like it would be a valuable contribution to
>>>>>>> OSGeoLive. From what I hear, it does seem to be of suitable quality
>>>>>>> software. I'm a bit nervous about your relatively small user
>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>> as well as the existence of similar projects which will be
>>>>>>> competing to
>>>>>>> attract your niche user base. I would like to encourage you to
>>>>>>> reach out
>>>>>>> to other International Earth Observation software projects to
>>>>>>> see how
>>>>>>> you can collaborate, and also reach out to other Earth Observation
>>>>>>> communities and attract them as users. This will be important
>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>> long term viability of your project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards to including EOxServer on OSGeoLive:
>>>>>>> I don't want to commit yet to including EOxServer in this 6.0
>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>> Partly due to the light community size, but mostly due to the
>>>>>>> many other
>>>>>>> challenges that we are going to be spending a lot of time on for
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> osgeolive release, (switching to ubuntu 12.04 and openjdk).
>>>>>>> However, you are welcome to write your docs and install script,
>>>>>>> and we
>>>>>>> can include them in the release. The docs will be on the DVD,
>>>>>>> but not
>>>>>>> linked from the index page, and install script won't be run
>>>>>>> during the
>>>>>>> build process, but can be run afterwards (eg at the start of a
>>>>>>> workshop
>>>>>>> which is using the DVD).
>>>>>>> I'd then suggest that we will probably want to introduce
>>>>>>> EOxServer into
>>>>>>> the OSGeoLive 6.5 release.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26/05/12 22:51, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>>>>>> Brian, Angelos, all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> many thanks for your positive and encouraging comments. Was a
>>>>>>>> pleasure
>>>>>>>> to work with you on IRC :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like your idea of the beta software. The script you mention is
>>>>>>>> available in our trunk [1] together with a screen shot [2] of
>>>>>>>> what I
>>>>>>>> achieved so far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards from Vienna, Europe,
>>>>>>>> Stephan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>> http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/install_eoxserver.sh
>>>>>>>> [2] http://eoxserver.org/browser/trunk/osgeo-live/screenshot.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2012-05-26 at 12:02 +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was present in the discussion Brian mentions and I agree
>>>>>>>>> with him.
>>>>>>>>> EOxServer seems to be a well organized project and I feel it
>>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>>> included in the disk, initially as beta software for version
>>>>>>>>> 6.0. This
>>>>>>>>> would mean no default installation but installable by the user
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> instructions through a quickstart document.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Stephan already created an installer for the disk and I had a
>>>>>>>>> chance to
>>>>>>>>> test it against alpha2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> Angelos
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 05/26/2012 03:52 AM, Brian Hamlin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron, OSGeo Live list, all
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I had the good fortune of working with Stephen briefly
>>>>>>>>>> today.. I got
>>>>>>>>>> a quick look at the project source code, and I happen to work
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> technology similar to some parts of EOxServer, here in
>>>>>>>>>> California.. so
>>>>>>>>>> I have some way to understand what I see.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The good news is that EOxServer is *small* and the
>>>>>>>>>> server portion of
>>>>>>>>>> it can certainly work within our Live parameters for web
>>>>>>>>>> servers.. My
>>>>>>>>>> first impression is that EOxServer is an agile and well
>>>>>>>>>> organized
>>>>>>>>>> suite of software that simplifies reading, processing and
>>>>>>>>>> displaying
>>>>>>>>>> some kinds of raster imagery, onto an OpenLayers web map. The
>>>>>>>>>> scope is
>>>>>>>>>> specific, the project appears to be well run.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SISS - I had not seen that SISS page before.. perhaps
>>>>>>>>>> some of those
>>>>>>>>>> on the cc list are very involved. .
>>>>>>>>>> I can take a guess .. SISS appears to be more of a certified
>>>>>>>>>> stack of
>>>>>>>>>> large software apps/platforms, along with their supported
>>>>>>>>>> standards -
>>>>>>>>>> different than a single small app written for a specific
>>>>>>>>>> purpose..
>>>>>>>>>> The naming of GML signals to me that SISS is aimed at large
>>>>>>>>>> institutions and research bodies..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> best regards from Berkeley, California
>>>>>>>>>> -Brian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On May 25, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some of the people involved in Australian/New Zealand Earth
>>>>>>>>>>> Observations (Andrew, RobA, Bruce, Jim, RobertG, David),
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As per below, Stephan has proposed that EOxServer be
>>>>>>>>>>> included in the
>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live DVD distribution, which will provide valuable
>>>>>>>>>>> marketing
>>>>>>>>>>> reach for EOxServer. I'm forwarding this on to each of you
>>>>>>>>>>> as I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> interested to understand whether the Australian Bureau of
>>>>>>>>>>> Meteorology
>>>>>>>>>>> (BOM) and CSIRO are aware of EOxServer. Have you considered
>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>> EOxServer?
>>>>>>>>>>> What have been your conclusions about such considerations?
>>>>>>>>>>> How does EOxServer compare against the SISS stack?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that BOM/CSIRO have been investing heavily in what they
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> calling the "Spatial Information Services Stack" (SISS), which
>>>>>>>>>>> consists of:
>>>>>>>>>>> PostGIS
>>>>>>>>>>> GeoServer
>>>>>>>>>>> GeoNetwork
>>>>>>>>>>> THREDDS
>>>>>>>>>>> HollowWorld
>>>>>>>>>>> FullMoon
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Siss/SpatialInformationServicesStackHandbook
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Stephan,
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm interested to know whether participants in the EOxServer
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> been in touch with programs working on the SISS stack?
>>>>>>>>>>> Are there any areas for collaboration?
>>>>>>>>>>> What are the benefits of EOxServer over SISS?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 26/05/2012 1:21 AM, Stephan Meißl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 21:27 +1000, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are starting to build the 6.0 OSGeo-Live DVD which will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be released
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in September 2012, ready for FOSS4G 2012 as well as many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spatial
>>>>>>>>>>>>> conferences. This upcoming version will be built upon the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xubuntu 12.04 Long Term Support (LTS) release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentation will be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> translated into eight languages, now also including
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Catalan.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any new applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We would like to hear from anyone wishing to add new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> projects to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live, anyone wishing to extend or add extra
>>>>>>>>>>>>> translations, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone who has ideas on how we should shape the upcoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cameron,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> we'd like to propose the inclusion of the EOxServer [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> project in
>>>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo-Live. Three weeks ago we released our version 0.2.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> and even
>>>>>>>>>>>> though it has a rather low version number we think it would
>>>>>>>>>>>> add some
>>>>>>>>>>>> value to OSGeo-Live. However, as this is a proposal and
>>>>>>>>>>>> we're surely
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> aware of all policies we fully understand different
>>>>>>>>>>>> opinions. It would
>>>>>>>>>>>> be great to hear your advice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Here are the details about EOxServer following the wiki at
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2]:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Name: EOxServer
>>>>>>>>>>>> URL: http://eoxserver.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> License: MIT
>>>>>>>>>>>> Description and value added:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> EOxServer's mission is to provide an Open Source software
>>>>>>>>>>>> framework to
>>>>>>>>>>>> ease the online provision of big Earth Observation data
>>>>>>>>>>>> archives via
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Standard services for efficient exploitation by users.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Open Source: MIT-style license
>>>>>>>>>>>> * software framework: Entirely based on Open
>>>>>>>>>>>> Source (Python,
>>>>>>>>>>>> MapServer, Django, GDAL, etc.)
>>>>>>>>>>>> * ease online provision: Admin GUI and command
>>>>>>>>>>>> line data
>>>>>>>>>>>> registration
>>>>>>>>>>>> * big Earth Observation data archives: Operators
>>>>>>>>>>>> register
>>>>>>>>>>>> existing
>>>>>>>>>>>> raster data archives
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Open Standard services: Open in the sense of
>>>>>>>>>>>> freely available;
>>>>>>>>>>>> Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC); WMS, WCS,
>>>>>>>>>>>> EO-WMS, EO-WCS
>>>>>>>>>>>> * efficient exploitation by users: User defined
>>>>>>>>>>>> sub-setting;
>>>>>>>>>>>> view
>>>>>>>>>>>> and download
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> OGC standards: WMS, WCS, EO-WMS, EO-WCS, WCS-T; All
>>>>>>>>>>>> versions are
>>>>>>>>>>>> supported that are supported in MapServer. However, focus
>>>>>>>>>>>> is on WCS 2.0
>>>>>>>>>>>> and WMS 1.3 and their respective Earth Observation (EO)
>>>>>>>>>>>> application
>>>>>>>>>>>> profiles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Language: Python and a small bit C
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Version: 0.2.0 (maybe 0.2.1 if we need to change something
>>>>>>>>>>>> for example
>>>>>>>>>>>> the packaging)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Risk adverse organisations: EOxServer has been partly
>>>>>>>>>>>> funded by the
>>>>>>>>>>>> European Space Agency (ESA) which is currently evaluating the
>>>>>>>>>>>> operational use. Also some European Commission supported
>>>>>>>>>>>> projects are
>>>>>>>>>>>> evaluating the usage of EOxServer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> User community: There is a user mailing list [3] but not
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet much
>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic. According to the Python package index [4] there
>>>>>>>>>>>> have been 96
>>>>>>>>>>>> downloads in the last three weeks and according to the website
>>>>>>>>>>>> statistics for eoxserver.org there have been around 3400
>>>>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>>>> visitors
>>>>>>>>>>>> with about 7800 visits in 2012.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer community: Again we have a mailing list [3] with
>>>>>>>>>>>> a bit more
>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic and nine committers. Please see ohloh [5] for more
>>>>>>>>>>>> statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stable release: Our latest stable release is 0.2.0.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Testing: We make extensive usage of Python's and Django's
>>>>>>>>>>>> unit test
>>>>>>>>>>>> framework and have about 900 tests included in our autotest
>>>>>>>>>>>> instance.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Additionally there are some selenium based tests of the web
>>>>>>>>>>>> client and
>>>>>>>>>>>> admin gui.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mature code: Again please see ohloh [5] for these statistics.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> User interface: In EOxServer we distinct between two user
>>>>>>>>>>>> roles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> operators and users. Operators can register data and
>>>>>>>>>>>> control the server
>>>>>>>>>>>> via the command line and the Django provided admin gui.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Users can
>>>>>>>>>>>> explore the available data via a simple web client based on
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenLayers
>>>>>>>>>>>> and jQuery.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Presentation at FOSS4G: There have been talks at the German
>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking
>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSSGIS and the recent FOSS4G-CEE conference. Please see
>>>>>>>>>>>> the EOxServer
>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation [6] for a list of presentations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers for liaising: Stephan Meissl and Stephan Krause
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Application installation: Since EOxServer is a Python
>>>>>>>>>>>> application the
>>>>>>>>>>>> recommended way of installation is using pip. However,
>>>>>>>>>>>> since we're
>>>>>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>>>>>> setuptools we can easily provide .deb packages if needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 512 Meg of RAM: Yes, EOxServer can be run in 512MB of
>>>>>>>>>>>> memory. However,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the image rendering will be limited to the capabilities of
>>>>>>>>>>>> MapServer
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> GDAL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Disk space: The current base package extracts to 22MB but
>>>>>>>>>>>> includes 15MB
>>>>>>>>>>>> of documentation. Our autotest package which we'd propose
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstration (see below) extracts to 130MB but 90MB of
>>>>>>>>>>>> this are
>>>>>>>>>>>> expected results for the tests which can be safely ignored.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If needed I
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe we can shrink the test data to under 10MB to still
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a
>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningful demonstration. Usually we also copy the OGC
>>>>>>>>>>>> schemas to speed
>>>>>>>>>>>> up XML validation but this might not be necessary here. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> packages
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> available here [7].
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Other dataset: We have to explore the already included
>>>>>>>>>>>> demonstration
>>>>>>>>>>>> data but at a first glance we think we need to include some
>>>>>>>>>>>> EO data in
>>>>>>>>>>>> order to show off the capabilities of EOxServer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Project Overview and Quickstart: Will of course be produced
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> provided.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows and/or Mac installers: Not needed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephan on behalf of the EOxServer Team
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://eoxserver.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply
>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] http://eoxserver.org/doc/en/users/mailing_lists.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [4] http://pypi.python.org/pypi/EOxServer/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [5] https://www.ohloh.net/p/eoxserver/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [6] http://eoxserver.org/doc_trunk/en/users/presentations.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [7] http://eoxserver.org/wiki/Download
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ==
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Hamlin
>>>>>>>>>> GeoCal-ish
>>>>>>>>>> OSGeo California Chapter
>>>>>>>>>> 415-717-4462 cell
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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