[Live-demo] Rethinking osgeo-live
Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
bob.basques at ci.stpaul.mn.us
Fri Oct 26 08:58:15 PDT 2012
I've been trying to come up with a similar approach to things, but looking at it from the product side of things. Working more towards a business angle. This pre-packaging seems like s good spot in a distribituion pipline to monetize things for support of further package development.
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>> From: live-demo-bounces at lists.osgeo.org [mailto:live-demo-
>> bounces at lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:08 PM
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>> Subject: [Live-demo] Rethinking osgeo-live
>> I've not really thought this through, but I'll put it out there
>> for discussion...
>> Would the effort spent on creating the osgeo-live disc be better
>> spent creating a 'portable' set of compiled applications, for
>> Linux, Mac, and Windows platforms?
>> The advantage would be that a user wanting to try something out
>> would just copy the bits they wanted to their PC, and use their
>> existing operating system. An installer would just copy what the
>> user wanted and handle dependencies (much like osgeo4w, but
>> It would also be more likely to be usable on machines with a
>> locked-down boot sequence. Our central IT people supply desktops
>> with passworded BIOS settings and HD-before-DVD boot sequence.
>> They also physically lock the cases. Killjoys.
>> There would also be no need for admin privileges - something that
>> blights system package management systems like apt and rpm.
>> Is it also true that in the very near future PCs will have some
>> kind of trusted boot system? So that alternate operating systems
>> would require signing (or I read something about a signed mini-
>> bootloader being developed to possibly get round this...). Will
>> that effect live DVD boots? That could be a pain...
>> The disadvantages:
>> Loss of total control - we wouldn't know exactly what OS the
>> programs were going onto, so documentation might look wrong.
>> Binary compatibility - how can you ensure your binaries work
>> with assorted Linux versions? That might be the show-stopper
>> here, although I'm pretty sure I've recently installed Linux
>> software from one-size-fits-all binaries. Would the only
>> compatibility be to do with libc and the kernel? I envisage
>> practically everything being on there, including things like the
>> Qt library and a JVM.
>> There would be a need to re-tool all the osgeo-live development
>> chain, and write an installer.
>> There would be three versions - Linux, Windows, Mac (or four if
>> anyone wants to compile for OpenSolaris...)
>> I just think there's greater longevity and value in the
>> distribution of a collection of ready-to-run, run-anywhere
>> packages than a live boot disk these days.
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